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Post by jonv on Sept 10, 2008 14:31:56 GMT -5
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Post by Carl on Sept 10, 2008 14:58:37 GMT -5
Is this the fish we were talking about yesterday with the fin damage?
I do not see any signs of Septicemia (yet), but I do see considerable damage WITH an infection present, and unfortunately your nemesis infection: Columnaris is what seems to be coming on.
Treating with the baths (MB and salts as well as antibiotics directly in the baths is a start). If you used Melafix already as a preventative, great, but at this point it is useless (Pimafix is stronger in this case)
I know this may not be possible, however besides the baths, a FULL 3-4 coarse treatment of antibiotics would be in order if at all possible (Kanacyn/Furan combination would have the most punch, although good ole Triple Sulfa is not a bad choice unless it gets more serious)
BTW, I added one of Video imbeds (the elongatus malawis) to your Jon's Page.
Carl
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Post by jonv on Sept 10, 2008 15:04:00 GMT -5
No that's the male Carl, but I focused in on the fin damage and now showing some red in there. I might have something on the female, but I think I couldn't capture it clearl enough. Basically the line along the spine and dorsal fin area were showing white and after a 45 min bath in the Meth Blue, it was pretty much all blue in those areas. Later in the night after the water change in the tank, she seemed to have some issues staying level to where she'd tilt her head downwards at about a 45 degree angle. Her top half with the dorsal fin would many times be sticking out of the water making me think she was trying to expose it for some reason, or massive swim bladder issues. I used a Mealafix bath until I could prep the other tank, and did a double level dose of AquaPlus to help with that slime coat. Didn't seem to matter though, found her floating dead about 2 am.
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Post by Carl on Sept 10, 2008 15:11:14 GMT -5
No that's the male Carl, but I focused in on the fin damage and now showing some red in there. I might have something on the female, but I think I couldn't capture it clearl enough. Basically the line along the spine and dorsal fin area were showing white and after a 45 min bath in the Meth Blue, it was pretty much all blue in those areas. Later in the night after the water change in the tank, she seemed to have some issues staying level to where she'd tilt her head downwards at about a 45 degree angle. Her top half with the dorsal fin would many times be sticking out of the water making me think she was trying to expose it for some reason, or massive swim bladder issues. I used a Mealafix bath until I could prep the other tank, and did a double level dose of AquaPlus to help with that slime coat. Didn't seem to matter though, found her floating dead about 2 am. OK, sorry again  I still would follow as aggressive a treatment as possible as I noted above. Carl |
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Post by jonv on Sept 10, 2008 15:13:22 GMT -5
Going to have to I think Carl. Not much choice now but to really hit that tank hard I think. It shouldn't have been that bad really. I'll hit it hard with the triple sulfa I think and maybe even follow that up with something else, and keep heavy dosing of Prime in case of bacteria failure. I'm still rather in shock too seeing those Flavus try to spawn with the female so small.
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Post by jonv on Sept 15, 2008 21:37:43 GMT -5
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Post by brenda on Sept 15, 2008 21:52:29 GMT -5
All very nice Jon!!! By the way how big is that channel cat?
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Post by jonv on Sept 15, 2008 22:03:27 GMT -5
Got to be at least a full 10 inches probably 12. Hard to measure with that huge tail it has. I only expect it to get bigger, and will probably try to sell it off at about 24 inches. I've consulted with many Chinese and Indonesians. The biggest reason I'm keeping it for now is the supposed good luck in health a fish like this is supposed to bring and the ability to ward off "evil spirits"
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Post by Carl on Sept 16, 2008 23:21:17 GMT -5
My appolgies if you posted this elsewhere, but how old are the Paratilapia Polleni? Carl |
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Post by jonv on Sept 16, 2008 23:28:31 GMT -5
I'm not really sure, i'll have to look up growth rates. They were sold off at about 1 inch size range. One of the six is really starting to show black more so then the others. I'm not really sure if that's any type of sex indicator or not. From all i know of, little is known about this species and it's supposed to be rather rare in the trade now. The new Tilapia's I got also have a very similar look to these and I'm going to have to be very careful weeding out those Hybrid peacocks as they could be mistaken for either tilapia.
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Post by bikeguy33 on Sept 16, 2008 23:37:07 GMT -5
I am now an expert on talapia....anything you need just ask. i deal with around 500 or more per day....
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Post by jonv on Sept 17, 2008 14:28:30 GMT -5
That's very true Bill and I had thought to bug you on it. That tank is a pretty active tank right now, and getting some good quality shots is extremely challenging. One question about Paratilapia Polleni though, if you know. If a fish starts turning black much sooner then the others, is this a male or female indicator?
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Post by bikeguy33 on Sept 17, 2008 16:32:24 GMT -5
well Jon....in our large holding tanks at work....the males seem to be the first to darken up. they will also grow faster and will probably be first up for feedings....
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Post by jonv on Oct 6, 2008 0:54:46 GMT -5
Bill, I was able to get some better close up stills of the Polleni and you can see just how dark looking they are progressing. I also took a few active shots in the tank too. These aren't exactly the best, but sometimes it's good to see them moving around as well. You can see the Polleni pretty well in this and the attempt of another dark one to intimidate this guy but failed LOL s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=100508_2103a.flvI got distracted by the Bythobate that passed into this shot. I diverted off showing the Polleni eating the plants to show you a better shot of the reddish looking morph I see occurring in some of the Bythobates, and a few of these are getting VERY dark also. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=100508_2103b.flvA small example of these darker Polleni trying to become assertive now s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=100508_2104a.flvI was trying to capture of the lighter looking ones in action so you might get an idea of if these might be female or not, but I couldn't get a good action shot, the stills I think show better. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=100508_2104b.flvThis one seems to like getting food near the shell s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=100508_2105a.flvBythobate shot. These seem to be larger then the Polleni, but then again, they may be older also. These don't seem to be as aggressive, but appear to be much more active and moving around in the tank s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=100508_2105c.flvBest look of a lighter looking one that I could get in action: s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=100508_2108a.flvThese guys sure seem to like to eat plants pretty good. And yup, those are Cories in with them, been in the tank going on a year now, they seem to co-exist pretty peacefully now. I think I have three different cory species in there, and the Polka Dot Botia along with a couple of clown plecos. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=100508_2108b.flv |
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Post by bikeguy33 on Oct 6, 2008 16:16:49 GMT -5
btw jon....you werent sure of the latin name for the polka dot botia....i looked it up and it seems to be Botia Kubotai.
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Post by goldenpuon on Oct 6, 2008 16:26:03 GMT -5
Wow! I love your elongatus malawis peacock! Nice tank videos too. I really like cichlids though goldfish are still my # 1. lol
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Post by jonv on Dec 2, 2008 0:53:21 GMT -5
Did a water change tonight. New look of the tank. Found an unknown female holding eggs, no clue who she spawned with. I think I have little choice but to let that brood just become food, sorry to say. I already have a 1 week old brood of Electric Yellows in the 15, and I just put the Taiwan Reef Albino female in to spit her brood there. I'm not going to open up the 20 just to accomodate a cross breed I can do nothing with anyways. Would be interested to know though, if anyone can ID this female. I rescued this one from Petland Discounts about a year or so ago. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120208_0007a.flvPretty good shot of one of my morphing male Kenyi and got a female in the shot too in case anyone hasn't seen how these two species are dimorphic. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120208_0008a.flvI have a second one morphing too, and in part of this, you can see both. I think it's pretty easy to say the bigger one must be dominant, and I have seen him beginning to attempt to lure some of the females. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120208_0010a.flvThe Jardini has taken up chasing the male Venustus around the tank again. I think these two are never going to get along. I still cannot figure out why this guy likes to single out that Venustus. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120208_0013a.flvJust a general overview of Mbuna hotel. You can see one of my OB peacocks in here, a male Electic Yellow though the fake tree stump, and the lone Tangyangikan I have, the Tropheus Dubosi at the end. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120208_0014a.flvBacked out look of the left side of the tank. The Yellow highlighted in the rock formation is the mom of the Yellows I gave John. She spit out another brood just last week. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120208_0014b.flvLeft going to right/middle, a group of happy Venustus around their dad. Those are the 5 left out of the near 60 the mother spit out back in June. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120208_0015b.flv |
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Post by Carl on Dec 2, 2008 11:06:41 GMT -5
I cannot place your mystery female, I would guess a hybrid, maybe with some species of Compressiceps in her.
As for the Jardini, I have never had a Jardini or other type of Arowana with Rift Lake cichlids, so this is "interesting" behavior fo me to observe.
I have kep 100s of Kenyis over the years, so your morphing male Kenyi brings back many memories.
Carl
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Post by jonv on Dec 11, 2008 15:20:24 GMT -5
Some growth looking on the Labidochromis Careleus 2 weeks in. This group doesn't look quite as solid yellow as the last group, but this brood has a different dad. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120308_2049a.flvs200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120308_2050a.flvThe Protomelas Steveni Albino spit out her brood again too early. This is like the 3rd time she's done this. Not sure what it is about that tank she doesn't like. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120308_2050b.flvHere's another look at the male Pytchochromis Nossibeensis I saved and one of the females. He's doing quite well. I find it odd how much in the body, colors and looks these guys have to a South American. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120208_0015b.flvParatilapia Polleni that has quite a few spots growing on it. Eventually, this species developes into completely black with the spots all over the body which kind of looks like a big growth of Ick. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120308_2101a.flvA better look at that deformed jaw on that Bythobate, but clearly, this is a male, no doubts in how much bigger it is then the others. The redder looking one, I thought to be a male with that blue line on the mouth, but has one of those ovipositer spots under the anal fin, and has been clearing out a tunnel/pit under some shells. I think they are getting ready to lay eggs as they are now guarding over that spot pretty intensely. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120308_2102a.flvs200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=112608_1743b.flvThe mouth on the Nossibee is pretty big. I tried to catch him yawning, this is the best I can get to show it. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=120308_2050a.flvAnd here is that pit area, they are guarding. They've taken quite a few days digging this out and now that they are chasing others away, I can only assume they mean to spawn. This sucks at the same time because they always do this when I'm ready to clean out the tank. I'm beginning to think, keeping substrate spawners is not easy and you have to alter your routine so you don't mess up their spawn attempts. s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=121108_1351a.flvs200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/knottypeater/?action=view¤t=121108_1352a.flv |
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Post by Carl on Dec 11, 2008 16:28:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the clips Jon, i am happy to read about the progress of your male Pytchochromis Nossibeensis!  However I did not see a video for him, there were a couple of videos that were duplicated/triplicated. Your Protomelas Steveni female seems to be making some sort of gesture with her pectoral fin in the video, maybe this is why she spit out her brood again too early ;D Carl |
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