Welcome Crazy4fish

[demfish]

Hey welcome to the group, hope you enjoy it here as much as I do ;D

[goldenpuon]

Welcome! Hope you find this group worthwhile!

[Crazy4Fish]

Thanks every one! JohnV is the one I invited me to join everything aquatic, So meany thanks to him too! ;D

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[jonv]

Not a problem at all. Our group used to be a bit bigger when the site was hosted off MSN, but the activity among the members was about the same. The group here is regrowing and this is a good balance of fish keepers here. Some with many years of experience and some that are still learning new things. Carl's studies are very holostic in view points which is helpful in weeding out older anecdotal information and that's one of the main focus's of this group, to end the mindset of so called "rules" like that 1 inch per gallon thing, lighting watts per gallon, and at least from my end, what you can and can't house with "cichlids"

It's very diverse here and even when view points aren't matched up well, you don't find the typical political infighting you find in many other forums, and over time, this group is going to grow. The library of articles Carl has alone makes this in my opinion, the best place to be. It's a pure goldmine of information, and I think that the more members here interacting we have, only makes us better, so thank you for comming over and joining up with us.

[Crazy4Fish]

The forum is very nice, there is know one trying to 'attack you' and your opinions here like on other forums, such as Cichlid-Forums.com
were I was kicked of for standing up for my self against the people trying to harm me.

[Carl]

Dec 1, 2008 14:35:05 GMT -5 Crazy4Fish said:

The forum is very nice, there is know one trying to 'attack you' and your opinions here like on other forums, such as Cichlid-Forums.com
were I was kicked of for standing up for my self against the people trying to harm me.

Sorry to read this

I hope we can do better here.

this also brings one thing to mind (as I have been emailed, blogged, and even had phone calls used to attack me) is that the Aquarium pond keeping hobby and more so industry is full of this and I try and keep one thing in mind that a freind who in the last decade of his career in mangaging businesses in different industries took on the management position at a large aquarium supply warehouse in Los Angeles and stated "that after decades in management and dealing with people, he had never seen a more dishonest, back stabbing industry than the aquarium industry".

Of coarse this still does not help when others attack, flame, or whatever other mode of disrespect they use, but it is worth considering.
I do know myself from my own research is that the aquarium hobby/industry is often 10 years behind other industries in applying new ideas, research, or technolgy if it ever gets done at all! I also have found that people just find it easier to attack rather than dig a little deeper where you have been coming from, which for me is as simple as reading my aricles and often the sources quoted therein (as well as my bio).
With many persons who may be attacking you they may not have the discernment to know the difference between subjective and objective information or anecdotal vs. controlled studies abd admiting the difference.

Sorry for using your welcome for a little grandstanding here
Carl

[Suzie Q (Lori)]

I think most of us on here...are here because of the issues on other forums. I know I am...and Sherry (Cashay).

Glad to have you C4F (Crazy4Fish)!!!