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Post by demfish on Oct 2, 2008 20:55:43 GMT -5
So I added some of my tank water, and put my AC 70 on the 55 gal Checked the water nitrAte 10 PH 7.0 Think its safe to put the fish in? Ammonia 0 nitrIte 0
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Post by 8 in the Corner on Oct 2, 2008 21:24:51 GMT -5
Yes, I think it would be safe. Go ahead and acclimate them as you would a new fish and they should be fine in their new home. Just monitor your ammonia and if you see it spiking, do a partial water change to keep it in check. John/8
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Post by demfish on Oct 3, 2008 7:38:42 GMT -5
Yes, I think it would be safe. Go ahead and acclimate them as you would a new fish and they should be fine in their new home. Just monitor your ammonia and if you see it spiking, do a partial water change to keep it in check. John/8 How would I go about doing that (acclimate them) in a bucket, one at a time? Their not going to be easy to catch either. Don't have a net that big. Whats the best way to catch them? Would like it to be as stress free for them and me! I know their just goldfish but there my buds! Thanks for your time!!
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Post by Carl on Oct 3, 2008 9:07:43 GMT -5
Yes, I think it would be safe. Go ahead and acclimate them as you would a new fish and they should be fine in their new home. Just monitor your ammonia and if you see it spiking, do a partial water change to keep it in check. John/8 How would I go about doing that (acclimate them) in a bucket, one at a time? Their not going to be easy to catch either. Don't have a net that big. Whats the best way to catch them? Would like it to be as stress free for them and me! I know their just goldfish but there my buds! Thanks for your time!! I generally use a soft net (although sometimes fish can be "dipped out" but often this is s difficult way to catch fish unless it is a bare tank). You can try catching them at feeding time or when first turning on the lights in the morning. Place the fish in a small container and then add water slowly from the new tank over 1/2 hour (or more if the water is much different). The use of Prime or Amquel Plus will aid in toxic ammonia/nitrites control until your tank is fully cycled . For more information about the Nitrogen cycle, cycling methods, etc, please see this article: Aquarium Nitrogen CycleCarl
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Post by demfish on Oct 3, 2008 14:06:24 GMT -5
OK I do have prime, have 3 buckets 1 fish per bucket I guess, Fred's the smallest so find him a large bowl. The water in the 55 is almost the same as the 30. So I don't think it will take to long? Thanks again..and again!
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Post by goldenpuon on Oct 3, 2008 15:28:31 GMT -5
Maybe you could use a cup (or large pitcher if they are big) to get them out. That way, the fish don't have to be netted before going into the bucket. That's how I move my fish. lol
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Post by demfish on Oct 3, 2008 19:06:01 GMT -5
Good idea Renee!! Not sure how I'm going to get from bucket to tank? Think I will hand carry them, guess I will work on that tomorrow. That the day, then see how long it takes the Goldy's to destroy my pretty tank.
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Post by bikeguy33 on Oct 3, 2008 21:41:15 GMT -5
when netting fish, they tend to only see the danger in front of them. i use 2 nets....one makes them turn around and jump right into the net behind them....sounds odd....but works great
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Post by eve on Oct 3, 2008 21:53:22 GMT -5
when netting fish, they tend to only see the danger in front of them. i use 2 nets....one makes them turn around and jump right into the net behind them....sounds odd....but works great lol, yep, can definitely agree with that one
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Post by 8 in the Corner on Oct 3, 2008 23:16:29 GMT -5
when netting fish, they tend to only see the danger in front of them. i use 2 nets....one makes them turn around and jump right into the net behind them....sounds odd....but works great I agree, I have used the two net strategy since I started working at a pet shop a few years back and had to net many, many fish every day. Some of them are escape artists and extremely difficult to catch. Loaches and botias come to mind right away. Small fish like danios that are always on the move are tough too. I am always afraid I will hurt them too, catching them between the wire of the net and the glass.
Some of the smaller Africans actually jump out of the water as you try to come up under them. Have had to pick some shelldwellers up off the floor on occasion. I am amazed that the impact as they hit the floor doesn't kill them or knock them stupid. Just be sure to wet your hands if you ever have to pick one up, dry hands will remove their slime coating wherever you touch them. Their slime layer is a natural barrier to bacteria and parasites.
Actually, D, nets are cheap. You can get an 8" wide soft net for under $2 at most fish stores. So for $4 plus tax, you can easily trap and move your fish whenever you need to.
John
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Post by jonv on Oct 3, 2008 23:21:29 GMT -5
You know John, speaking of the jumping, that happend to one of the Obliques after I got done acclimating them. I poured the bucket of their bag water and tank water mixed into the sink, but passing through the net. One of the bigger ones decided it was going to run for the door, and it's a good 3.5 to 4 feet from the sink counter to the floor. He/she seems to be doing just fine. It is amazing just like you said.
On the other hand though, I've had an Arowana find it's way out a 2 inch gap in the back of the tank, and that's five feet plus, down and onto plywood. It was bleeding slightly, but after about three days of adding a lot of aquaplus stress coat, resumed normal activity.
That last group of Arowana I had, four of them, I'd say about five times in the year I grew them out to sell, had to get up and all hours of the day to put one back in the tank. Go figure it always happend at night. Thank God it never happend when I was at work. The fourth one was much smaller and we decided to keep it over in the 75 gallon and stupid me didn't realize, that's only a half hood in that tank. Took about a week for the wife to come home there and found it on the floor after work.
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Post by demfish on Oct 4, 2008 8:05:50 GMT -5
Actually, D, nets are cheap. You can get an 8" wide soft net for under $2 at most fish stores. So for $4 plus tax, you can easily trap and move your fish whenever you need to. I bet I would never get out of there with just a net ;D but is a good idea and suppose I should go buy a net... heaven help me be strong! One of the better thing about Oregon no sales tax here ;D I'm thinking thats one off the reason crash floats, as I dropped him while trying to float the bag. Jon...Took about a week for the wife to come home there and found it on the floor after work. So did she pick it up? Hope so but I know some women can be a little squeamish about pick fish up. OK so another trip to pet store...just a net...(keeps telling herself) ;D
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Post by 8 in the Corner on Oct 4, 2008 9:27:50 GMT -5
One of the better thing about Oregon no sales tax here ;D I'm thinking thats one off the reason crash floats, as I dropped him while trying to float the bag. OK so another trip to pet store...just a net...(keeps telling herself) ;D No sales tax? That would be great! Ours is 7.5% here in good old Cleveland. That really adds up quick too. At least gas prices are coming down, I saw it for $3.25 last night.
Is Crash a widebody goldfish? They are known for having difficulties with their swim bladders. There is a guy in one of the major city aquariums (Baltimore, I think) that uses a syringe to remove some of the gas from floating fish that are afflicted with swim bladder problems. He said the only problem is knowing exactly where the bladder is so you can get to it.
www.fishdeals.com/fish_diseases/swim_bladder_disease/
Don't feel bad about dropping him, I just dropped a bag of about a dozen newborn platy fry (they were born in the bag we received in our fish shipment at the pet store where I work) on the concrete in my driveway. They came through it fine, the water cushions them well. One of the perks I enjoy is taking baby fish home when they are born at the store, they have no interest or room to raise them. I just tossed them in with my mixed fancy guppies to grow up.
John
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Post by demfish on Oct 4, 2008 9:37:17 GMT -5
No sales tax? That would be great! Ours is 7.5% here in good old Cleveland. That really adds up quick too. At least gas prices are coming down, I saw it for $3.25 last night. Gas is cheaper there its $3.33 here. Crash is a very fat fan tail, fast also he out swims the common goldfish for food. He lost about 6 scales when I dropped him, was so bummed... Thats what I get for trying to hurry! Not going to hurry today slow and easy, is the way I hope it goes
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Post by goldenpuon on Oct 4, 2008 11:07:16 GMT -5
Sales tax here is 6% I think. lol Better than Cleveland. I've also thought of an alternative to the 2 net strategy even though it is a VERY VERY good one. Use one and a net and use your hand (maybe even holding a little fish food) to gentally guide the fish into the net. They may even "volunteer to go into the nnet if you net them and bribe them with food a lot. My guppies always want tio go into plastic conatiner I put itno the tank because I ahve lured them in there with food in the past to check them for ich. lol
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Post by cashay on Oct 21, 2008 9:05:44 GMT -5
I seen people use a bowl, the fish kinda just swim close to it and they scoop them out with little effort, doesn't seem stressful at all ?? I'm just throwing it out there...
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