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Post by DaharkazAngel on Oct 23, 2009 6:26:48 GMT -5
As of recent ive noticed my red tail black shark and clown loach are arguing over a piece of bog wood. There is plenty of 'other' spots (wood caves and plants) but no they both want this exact spot. What ive seen is both fish rubbing up against each other, and so far neither fish is harmed or seems to fussed but should i be worried it could turn into more??
My tank is 100 gals , 6 foot long 18 inch high and 18 inch wide, set up about 8 months and has these fish: 7 Angels 1 clown loach 1 red tail black shark 7 rummynose tetras 5 black neons 6 corys 2 breeding bristlnose catfish (few bubs here and there) 1 yellow lab 3 female swordtail livebearers.
I think im a little overstocked but nothing good water quality cant sustain. My aggresion levels between all fish are quiet low, even between the Angels. And is it only as of late ive notive the shark and loach scruffung. I can try to record it but it could take some time. Any thoughts??? Can both fish handle on there own?? Thanks Angel
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Post by kagome on Oct 23, 2009 10:23:52 GMT -5
I can't vouch for what the shark can dish out, I've never had one and don't know too much about them. However, as for your loach, all Botia loaches have two big subocular (under the eye) spikes that are shaped like fish hooks. They are retractable and so usually lay against the face so you don't seem them too often unless the fish is stressed. Usually clown loaches are pretty docile and don't bother anybody but in this situation I would be concerned about the safety of the shark. If it really comes down to a serious disagreement the loach may do some major damage to the shark. Can you remove the bog wood in question? Or rearrange the tank? This MAY put an end to their dispute but there are not guarantees. If this ends up not going well for the shark I would not recommend getting another one, but rather getting another clown as they are schooling fish and prefer to not live alone. Here's a top view of the spines. From the side you can see that they are curved up at the tips like hooks but couldn't find a good picture. www.loaches.com/articles/images/images-for-books-and-magazines-folder/clown_spine.jpg/view
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Post by fishfever on Oct 23, 2009 12:11:44 GMT -5
Rearranging things may help - one or both of them may not like that piece of wood nearly as much in a different location (fish are funny that way). We got a new small male tetra not long ago and for whatever reason, he decided he was going to make a main passageway between a decoration and plant his hangout and vigorously defended the area. Even when we tried to shoo him away he would always return to this area. Another larger male tetra, a lamp eye decided this was unacceptable and would end up tangling with the small one whenever they crossed paths. One morning we looked and "Rocky", the little tetra, had a big black mark over one of his eyes. It wasn't long before he was swimming sideways and was gone by the end of the day. Usually I find a little brief chasing doesn't seem to hurt much but if they are actually making contact someone is likely to get injured... We got a larger replacement for "Rocky" and he's doing fine and not at all territorial.
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Post by bikeguy33 on Oct 24, 2009 23:03:10 GMT -5
i agree with kagome....(except the loach getting the better) . if 2 kids fight over a toy....you take the toy away. i`d remove the wood in question for a week or 2....give them a chance to find somewhere else to hang their hat...
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Oct 27, 2009 1:57:44 GMT -5
Lol ok will do. =) Thanks guys
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