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Post by danny on Jul 6, 2009 8:30:00 GMT -5
ok,after reading mr. carl's articles on food nutrition(i hope i read and understood it right),i look all the available fish food on all 4 LFS here.i was specially looking spirulina.i found some of that contains these,but all are flowerhorn foods.i bought one anyways to feed my bigger type fishes.i was also amazed that one food product that i usually ignore(it was cheap so i thought it was a low quality),but when i checked it out,it was the only small type foods that contains spirulina!so i bought one for my medium sized fishes.uhm,did i make the right choices? will post all ingredients of my fish foods for you guys(who are way more experienced and experts ;D),maybe you can have the time to evaluate it. ;D
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Post by Carl on Jul 6, 2009 8:52:55 GMT -5
I am not sure of your question Danny, could you tell us the food and list the ingredients (in order on the label)?
Price is not always an accurate way to determine quality as you seem to be finding out (if I read you correctly). Tetra often costs more, yet rarely has the best ingredients near the top of the ingredients list, if at all.
Carl
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Post by danny on Jul 7, 2009 8:26:36 GMT -5
here are the foods with ingredients...
for my big fishes,i feed them these:
SANYU SPIRULINA FLOWERHORN -fish meal,corn,soya bean,wheat flour,defatted rice bran,glutten meal,sodium phospate,spirulina,heat-resistance vitamin c,vitamins and minerals.
OCEAN FREE XO HUMPY HEAD-special head growth enhancing ingredient,fish protein,quality white fish meal,krill,spirulina,yolk meal,wheat germ,dried yeast,wheat flour,antarctic shrimps,prottease,stable multi-vitamins and minerals,lecithin,immune substance,calcium,enzyme,organic minerals,etc(it really says "etc")
AQUA COLLECTION COLOUR BRIGHTwhite fish meal,wheat flour,soybean meal,wheat germ,yeast,shrimp,vegetable protein,egg meal,vitamins b1,b2,b5,b6,b12,c,d3,e,h,k,carotenoid,lecithin,astaxanthin,minerals and natural color enhancement .
CICHLID BITS-quality fish meal,wheat flour,yellow corn,soybean meal,shrimp meal,brewer's dried yeast,lecithin,vitamin c.
SANYU DRIED SHRIMP-dried shrimp..haha!
For my medium sized fishes:
KOHAKU SPECIAL FISH FOOD-fish meal,wheat meal,yeast,germ meal,vegetables,spirulina,shrimp vitamins and mineral suppluments,etc.
(for goldfish)SANYU GOLDY COLOR-fish,wheat meal,wheat germ,beer yeast,spirulina,herbs,casein,vegetable oil,EU permitted colorant.
POWDERED FOOD(sorry i forgot the name and also lost it's pouch)-i only remember that astaxanthin is it's key ingredient.
And for my small fishes and fry:
SERA VIPAN-vitamins a,b1,b2,c,d3,e.
SERA MICRON-spirulina,daphnia,cyclops,fish liver,plankton and musslemeat
that's all i use as food for my fishes.am i giving them the right foods?and i use flowerhorn foods for my big cichlids and bichirs and climbing perch,seems that flowerhorn foods is the "healthiest" food around here.
and if,say 1 of the fish food i use spoils without me knowing,will the fish know they are spoiled?will they help me tell that it's spoiled?haha!
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Post by Carl on Jul 7, 2009 9:21:15 GMT -5
Most of the foods look good; the Sera Growth is excellent for growth. Although I have used many Sanyu foods, which are generally excellent, I do not think the ingredients of the "SANYU SPIRULINA FLOWERHORN" which has too much cereal and the Spirulina is too far down the list of ingredients. This is a good example of reading the ingredients, as you cannot always make generalizations of fish food brands. Sanyu is a fish food company our of Malaysia that often uses similar formulas from well researched foods from Japan and Taiwan, however in this case I think they did not use a good formula. As an example of a better Sanyu product; The Sanyu Betta Gold is the same formula as Hikari and is excellent. As another example; Omega is another excellent brand, however their Veggie flake is not as good as many other foods in their fish food line, especially when compared to better Spirulina foods such as Spirulina 20 Carl |
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danny
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Post by danny on Jul 8, 2009 22:50:38 GMT -5
thank you sir..so i will not make the sanyu spirulina as the staple/main diet of my fishes.
sir,what if one of the foods i am using spoils without me knowing,will the fish still eat them?
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Post by goldenpuon on Jul 9, 2009 12:47:12 GMT -5
They probably will still eat it (unless it is very spoiled) but it is best for them to have fresh food. It can sometimes be hard to tell when fish food spoils according to what I read a while ago. (It was not on EA so I may be wrong)
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Post by danny on Aug 25, 2009 6:22:19 GMT -5
what can you say about the ingredients of this food?
MEGA MIX -astaxanthin,soy bean meal,corn meal,wheat flour,omega 3 EPA/DHA & essential fatty acids(HUFA),fish meal,pure spirulina maxima,wheat flour,wheat germ,lecithin,yeast,multi vitamins,minerals and active enzyme.
is it healthy?it's actually a flowerhorn food but i'm planning to use it(if it's healthy) as staple diet for my fish.
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Post by bikeguy33 on Aug 25, 2009 6:31:56 GMT -5
to me it doesnt seem like a very nutritious food....the healthiest ingredients are listed at the end. the volumes of fish meal and spirallina are probably quite low....
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Post by Carl on Aug 25, 2009 9:23:56 GMT -5
to me it doesnt seem like a very nutritious food....the healthiest ingredients are listed at the end. the volumes of fish meal and spirallina are probably quite low.... I second this opinion. Carl |
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Post by danny on Aug 28, 2009 0:34:00 GMT -5
thank you...i won't buy it.hehe!i'll post again if i see another food.so the healthiest ingredient should be first on the list?
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Post by bikeguy33 on Aug 28, 2009 5:49:41 GMT -5
things like spiralina and fish meal should at least be high on the list and things like soy either very low down the list or not on it
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Post by danny on Sept 15, 2009 6:39:47 GMT -5
what about this?
it is again a flowerhorn food.
special red/blue enhancing imgredients,fish,spirulina,shrimp meal,yolk meal,wheat germ,soybean meal,wheat flour,antartic shrimps,proteasestable multi-vitamins and mineral immune substance,calcium,enzyme,organic mineral,etc...
is it healthy?
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Post by Carl on Sept 15, 2009 10:02:21 GMT -5
what about this? it is again a flowerhorn food. special red/blue enhancing imgredients,fish,spirulina,shrimp meal,yolk meal,wheat germ,soybean meal,wheat flour,antartic shrimps,proteasestable multi-vitamins and mineral immune substance,calcium,enzyme,organic mineral,etc... is it healthy? This looks to be a good food, very good ingredients that are high on the list (including yolk meal) Carl |
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Post by bikeguy33 on Sept 16, 2009 3:40:12 GMT -5
i concer with carl. sounds like a great staple. what is the name of this food? is it a pellet? i would be interested in buying a bag...
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Post by danny on Sept 17, 2009 6:49:28 GMT -5
it's really just one of those "cheap" fish food.it's pouch is not that "showy/loud".hehe!
it's brand is "jtc top choice",the name is "flowerhorn food"..
yes,it is a pellet.a bit hard,only fish with strong mouth can eat it i think.
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Post by bikeguy33 on Sept 17, 2009 17:57:14 GMT -5
can you add pics of your flowerhorns. here there are no flowerhorn foods....just a chiclid food. to me it seems like a company making a dog food for specific breeds of dogs. just repackaging with a different display...
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Post by danny on Sept 18, 2009 8:57:34 GMT -5
i am trying if it's really effective on my fish.i tried this "a-life",a flowerhorn food too,and it really intensified my tiger oscar(dead now  ).. come to think of it,when i 1st smelled the food,the 1st thing that came into my mind was rabbit food.haha!it really smelled different. i would love to post my flowerhorns here.. |
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Post by danny on Sept 18, 2009 9:02:04 GMT -5
i am trying if it's really effective on my fish.i tried this "a-life",a flowerhorn food too,and it really intensified my tiger oscar(dead now ).. come to think of it,when i 1st smelled the food,the 1st thing that came into my mind was rabbit food.haha!it really smelled different. i would love to post my flowerhorns here..  |
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