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Post by murdock6701 on May 16, 2009 21:45:01 GMT -5
how are your other tanks holding out? how many do you have? if you hook up a hose to each tank and siphoned water continuously by linking them all together, you could establish continous water movement!
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Post by bikeguy33 on May 16, 2009 22:25:27 GMT -5
great idea john...as long as all at diff levels
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Post by murdock6701 on May 16, 2009 22:29:22 GMT -5
thamks Bill, sure hope it helps! I'm out of ideas on this one except for some kind of windmill idea
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Post by eve on May 16, 2009 22:36:30 GMT -5
that's an awesome idea
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Post by danny on May 16, 2009 22:47:03 GMT -5
how are your other tanks holding out? how many do you have? if you hook up a hose to each tank and siphoned water continuously by linking them all together, you could establish continous water movement! indeed a great idea sir,but most of my tanks are on the same level.i have 10 tanks of different size.so far they are fine,and fishes too.the 50gallons was the only affected.but i'll try your idea sir,maybe i can something to make it work.thank you very much for all the help and ideas.i think by 2 more days and the power will be back.
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Post by murdock6701 on May 16, 2009 22:57:38 GMT -5
I wish you luck Danny and hope the hose idea works - I think maybe the hoses at different levels might help, that way you won't have to move your tanks - droppinf a plastic bottle in the tank and letting it sin would create bubbles but you'd be doing it all day! I appreciate you calling me sir and I am respectful of your culture but I consider you a friend and if it doesn't offend you, you don't have to address me as sir
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Post by danny on May 16, 2009 23:12:08 GMT -5
I wish you luck Danny and hope the hose idea works - I think maybe the hoses at different levels might help, that way you won't have to move your tanks - droppinf a plastic bottle in the tank and letting it sin would create bubbles but you'd be doing it all day! I appreciate you calling me sir and I am respectful of your culture but I consider you a friend and if it doesn't offend you, you don't have to address me as sir uhm,ok mr. john...sorry,i think i will have to get accustomed with the adressing you guys.haha! ;D i did this idea of mine,i get a bottle of water and then turn it upside down then put a little hole in the cap,so that water drops in the tank water causing the same effect with that of filter,but the hose sounds like a better and practical idea.thank you again
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Post by murdock6701 on May 16, 2009 23:21:30 GMT -5
great idea - this will be a learning process for us all! an empty upsode dwn platic bottle w/ a couple of small hole on the bottom weighted won and submerged would cause bubbles to rise to the top....just another idea - keep up the good work - how about a tire pump? you'll have muscles before this is over!
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Post by danny on May 17, 2009 6:23:32 GMT -5
great idea - this will be a learning process for us all! an empty upsode dwn platic bottle w/ a couple of small hole on the bottom weighted won and submerged would cause bubbles to rise to the top....just another idea - keep up the good work - how about a tire pump? you'll have muscles before this is over! haha!helping the fish and at the same time a work out too.haha!
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Post by fishfever on May 17, 2009 9:41:07 GMT -5
Danny, in the future I would buy a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) if your power can go out frequently. You do not need a car battery; the battery is built-in and charges from your wall outlet when you have power. Then when the power goes out, the charged battery powers the circuits to create ac power for your pumps/filters. I would not power the light and probably not even the heater through the UPS, only critical things. Fortunately the pump/filters draw much less power than the light/heater so a good UPS with a full battery charge should be able to run them for a long time. I have several that I use for my computers and IF I were ever to lose power I'd switch them over to the tanks after shutting down the computers. They are not that expensive, in fact I just checked EBAY and a new one sold recently for $1.29 with free shipping (I'm sure you will pay more, but they don't cost an arm and a leg). Look for a NEW one as used ones have batteries that have been cycled too many times even if they still work so when they are needed, they don't run as long. Also the higher the power (VA rating), the longer it can keep your filters running when the power does go out.
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Post by Carl on May 17, 2009 10:24:28 GMT -5
One more idea (I really like the upside down pop bottle and wind mill idea ), is you can raise the dissolved oxygen level in your aquarium quickly by adding a small amount of ordinary 3% hydrogen peroxide (H202) at the right concentration to your aquarium. Hydrogen peroxide can be use as a treatment of acute oxygen insufficiency at a dose of 0.25 ml of a 3% H2O2 solution per liter of water (1 ml per gallon). The Hydrogen Peroxide rapidly decomposes into oxygen, although be aware this should be done only once per what amounts to a full water change. See this article for more: Aquarium Medications 3, chemical treatmentsI know you cannot afford these, but for others reading this thread, these are a pump that runs normally then, when power is cut off, automatically run on battery power, and unlike earlier generation automatic battery pumps, these have considerable air pressure. For Azoo Non Stop Air Pumps: Azoo Non Stop AC/DC High Power Ar pumpCarl
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Post by fishfever on May 17, 2009 17:04:35 GMT -5
Oh one other nice thing about the UPS; if you go on vacation and lose power while gone or power goes down during the night everything will continue to run without any intervention. Most models will beep every now and then when they run on battery power to indicate backup mode is running. We don't lose power here often except for severe storms but I think I have now convinced myself to get some UPS's set up after hearing Danny's sad story.
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Post by danny on May 18, 2009 8:05:27 GMT -5
Danny, in the future I would buy a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) if your power can go out frequently. You do not need a car battery; the battery is built-in and charges from your wall outlet when you have power. Then when the power goes out, the charged battery powers the circuits to create ac power for your pumps/filters. I would not power the light and probably not even the heater through the UPS, only critical things. Fortunately the pump/filters draw much less power than the light/heater so a good UPS with a full battery charge should be able to run them for a long time. I have several that I use for my computers and IF I were ever to lose power I'd switch them over to the tanks after shutting down the computers. They are not that expensive, in fact I just checked EBAY and a new one sold recently for $1.29 with free shipping (I'm sure you will pay more, but they don't cost an arm and a leg). Look for a NEW one as used ones have batteries that have been cycled too many times even if they still work so when they are needed, they don't run as long. Also the higher the power (VA rating), the longer it can keep your filters running when the power does go out. hey that's a good idea!wish i knew that before th power went out.tahnk you for this idea sir.i'll buy one.
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Post by danny on May 18, 2009 8:10:39 GMT -5
Oh one other nice thing about the UPS; if you go on vacation and lose power while gone or power goes down during the night everything will continue to run without any intervention. Most models will beep every now and then when they run on battery power to indicate backup mode is running. We don't lose power here often except for severe storms but I think I have now convinced myself to get some UPS's set up after hearing Danny's sad story. by the way ups is available here,so no problem with that.haha!on the positive side,it's nice that my problem helped others to have an idea if ever they experience my problem right now ;D
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Post by danny on May 18, 2009 8:45:03 GMT -5
One more idea (I really like the upside down pop bottle and wind mill idea ), is you can raise the dissolved oxygen level in your aquarium quickly by adding a small amount of ordinary 3% hydrogen peroxide (H202) at the right concentration to your aquarium. Hydrogen peroxide can be use as a treatment of acute oxygen insufficiency at a dose of 0.25 ml of a 3% H2O2 solution per liter of water (1 ml per gallon). The Hydrogen Peroxide rapidly decomposes into oxygen, although be aware this should be done only once per what amounts to a full water change. See this article for more: Aquarium Medications 3, chemical treatmentsI know you cannot afford these, but for others reading this thread, these are a pump that runs normally then, when power is cut off, automatically run on battery power, and unlike earlier generation automatic battery pumps, these have considerable air pressure. For Azoo Non Stop Air Pumps: Azoo Non Stop AC/DC High Power Ar pumpCarl thank you once again sir.but if say i accidentally "overdosed" or i put too many in the tank,would that be harmful?
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Post by Carl on May 18, 2009 9:05:40 GMT -5
Yes, the over dose of Hydrogen Peroxide can be dangerous, so this should be used carefully.
Fishfever's idea of UPS is excellent as well; a similar idea I used for my LFS to run it during the many 2-5 hour black outs we had was deep cycle RV/Marine Batterys coupled to a modified sine wave inverters, this powered many devices for hours if not days (black outs never lasted days though) Many modern inverters can have an out put of 400 watts or more, or if the battery(s) is large enough, many can have an output of 2000 watts + (enough to run an RV air conditioner)
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Post by danny on May 20, 2009 7:23:49 GMT -5
yehey!finally power is back! ;D all my fishes are smiling and celebrating! lol! ;D
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Post by Carl on May 20, 2009 8:52:42 GMT -5
yehey!finally power is back! ;D all my fishes are smiling and celebrating! lol! ;D Good News! Carl
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Post by bikeguy33 on May 20, 2009 9:18:13 GMT -5
excellent. are power failures common there....if so, I hope you get a few of these items (where money allows) to avoid any of this in the future.
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Post by eve on May 20, 2009 10:07:09 GMT -5
that's great
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