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Post by danny on May 14, 2009 6:37:02 GMT -5
power is out in our place!!it's been 2 days now and 1 of my tank is affected!it's a 50 gallon tank with 3 adult angels and 1 juvenile oscar(3 inches).before there were 6 adult angels in the tank.when they started staying near the surface and gasping for air,i quickly took out the 3 angelfish.then i discovered that my crab was dead,so i did a water change.they are still gasping for air and won't eat!power is still out so there's nothing to cause water tension.battery operated pump is not available here.can't afford to buy online.what can i do?  |
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Post by murdock6701 on May 14, 2009 6:57:02 GMT -5
can you get hold of an AC/DC convertor? they are relatively inexpensive - hook a car battery to your pump - should buy you some time!
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Post by danny on May 14, 2009 7:08:10 GMT -5
can you get hold of an AC/DC convertor? they are relatively inexpensive - hook a car battery to your pump - should buy you some time! i have one,but the problem is i don't have car and a car battery.haha! is there any other way? |
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Post by brenda on May 14, 2009 9:22:09 GMT -5
What about one of those battery operated air pumps? They sell them at petsmart for under 20 bucks and I think they use D batteries. It will also help to just kind of stir the top of there water, that will add oxygen and help release some of the other gases.
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Post by danny on May 14, 2009 9:31:46 GMT -5
What about one of those battery operated air pumps? They sell them at petsmart for under 20 bucks and I think they use D batteries. It will also help to just kind of stir the top of there water, that will add oxygen and help release some of the other gases. battery operated pumps are currently unavailable here in our place.i am from philppines  |
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Post by brenda on May 14, 2009 10:55:27 GMT -5
Oh, sorry...I would just keep stirring the tank up if you can.
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Post by jonv on May 14, 2009 11:56:33 GMT -5
power is out in our place!!it's been 2 days now and 1 of my tank is affected!it's a 50 gallon tank with 3 adult angels and 1 juvenile oscar(3 inches).before there were 6 adult angels in the tank.when they started staying near the surface and gasping for air,i quickly took out the 3 angelfish.then i discovered that my crab was dead,so i did a water change.they are still gasping for air and won't eat!power is still out so there's nothing to cause water tension.battery operated pump is not available here.can't afford to buy online.what can i do? Danny, It sounds like you possibly have a bio filtration collapse which is not uncommon to occur when you lose air flow. To start with, I think it's in your best interest to narrow down the cause of the gasping to determine if this is from nitrogen compound build up, or lack of O2 circulation. That would be my starting point as how to tackle the underlying issue, will be different for each case. If this is just a matter of low O2 circulation, in addition to what Brenda said, you might consider lowering the water level and increasing the total volume of air being exposed to the water. Don't confuse what I am saying to mean you are increasing the surface area. That's not what I am saying. I am saying that you are increasing the volume of the air, not the surface area. This might help, I am not sure. I'd still opt for agitation of the water in either case. If this is a matter of nitrogen compounds then you really need to get some de-ionizing products in there pronto, or you need to lower that bio load. It also would be best if you do constant water changes, maybe 2-3 times a day to prevent excess build up as well as, if you have other established tank media, that is not afflicted in the power outage, borrow some of that media to increase your colony rebuild rate. Assuming worst case scenario here, all tanks have biofilter crashed, you're just going to have to restart your cycles all over again and I would contemplate reducing your bioloads as much as possible, with use of de-ionizing chemical treatments. |
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Post by bikeguy33 on May 14, 2009 15:36:13 GMT -5
there are lil capsules available that in an emergency situation can oxygenate the water. check with your local pet store for what they are called. surface agitation helps.....stir up the surface as much as possible. also....are your neighbors power supply gone too? if not maybe an extension cord. how is your computer being powered right now??? also....in a pinch....i think a couple drops of meth blue will help them to process what lil oxygen there is. good luck and keep us posted |
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Post by danny on May 14, 2009 22:32:26 GMT -5
Oh, sorry...I would just keep stirring the tank up if you can. yes,maam i am trying that..bad news is that 2 of the adult angelfish is dead. |
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Post by danny on May 14, 2009 22:38:38 GMT -5
power is out in our place!!it's been 2 days now and 1 of my tank is affected!it's a 50 gallon tank with 3 adult angels and 1 juvenile oscar(3 inches).before there were 6 adult angels in the tank.when they started staying near the surface and gasping for air,i quickly took out the 3 angelfish.then i discovered that my crab was dead,so i did a water change.they are still gasping for air and won't eat!power is still out so there's nothing to cause water tension.battery operated pump is not available here.can't afford to buy online.what can i do? Danny, It sounds like you possibly have a bio filtration collapse which is not uncommon to occur when you lose air flow. To start with, I think it's in your best interest to narrow down the cause of the gasping to determine if this is from nitrogen compound build up, or lack of O2 circulation. That would be my starting point as how to tackle the underlying issue, will be different for each case. If this is just a matter of low O2 circulation, in addition to what Brenda said, you might consider lowering the water level and increasing the total volume of air being exposed to the water. Don't confuse what I am saying to mean you are increasing the surface area. That's not what I am saying. I am saying that you are increasing the volume of the air, not the surface area. This might help, I am not sure. I'd still opt for agitation of the water in either case. If this is a matter of nitrogen compounds then you really need to get some de-ionizing products in there pronto, or you need to lower that bio load. It also would be best if you do constant water changes, maybe 2-3 times a day to prevent excess build up as well as, if you have other established tank media, that is not afflicted in the power outage, borrow some of that media to increase your colony rebuild rate. Assuming worst case scenario here, all tanks have biofilter crashed, you're just going to have to restart your cycles all over again and I would contemplate reducing your bioloads as much as possible, with use of de-ionizing chemical treatments. somehow,it's the only tank that is affected.i'll try your suggestions sir,lower the water level then put some bio filter from other tank.when the power went out,i do small water change everyday. now they are only 3 fish in the tank,the tank is heavily planted. 2 of the angelfish have died already. |
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Post by danny on May 14, 2009 22:44:21 GMT -5
there are lil capsules available that in an emergency situation can oxygenate the water. check with your local pet store for what they are called. surface agitation helps.....stir up the surface as much as possible. also....are your neighbors power supply gone too? if not maybe an extension cord. how is your computer being powered right now??? also....in a pinch....i think a couple drops of meth blue will help them to process what lil oxygen there is. good luck and keep us posted our house is only affected.i would love to have an extension from our neighbors but it's illegal here.haha! 2 of the angelfish are dead.oscar is not looking good.i'll try your suggestion right away!i use my neighbor's computer. |
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Post by bikeguy33 on May 14, 2009 22:49:12 GMT -5
break the law for an hour or 2. these fish will continue to die if something isnt done. i hope i am not coming off as an ass, but this is an extreme emergency situation....
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Post by danny on May 15, 2009 8:00:43 GMT -5
break the law for an hour or 2. these fish will continue to die if something isnt done. i hope i am not coming off as an ass, but this is an extreme emergency situation.... i already did sir,i was able to have an extension from our neighbor,but it was only for a 1 and a half hour. |
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Post by danny on May 15, 2009 21:42:25 GMT -5
my oscar died too already.i transferred the last adult angel in another tank,he is doing fine now.what should i do with the tank now?
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Post by murdock6701 on May 15, 2009 22:12:05 GMT -5
my concern is that if you have no power to keep water circulating, the tank is going to environmentally collapse as a safe ecosystem - how is your last fish able to survive by moving him to anothr tank if you are still powerless?
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Post by murdock6701 on May 15, 2009 22:14:05 GMT -5
another thought - they make these little battery operated hand held fans - if you were to place the propellor only on the water it would at least create water movement......
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Post by danny on May 16, 2009 2:02:57 GMT -5
my concern is that if you have no power to keep water circulating, the tank is going to environmentally collapse as a safe ecosystem - how is your last fish able to survive by moving him to anothr tank if you are still powerless? i took the risk on the other angelfish.i took the chance that maybe he would survive the transfer to the other tank.this morning it ate,after 2 days of not eating. |
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Post by danny on May 16, 2009 2:05:03 GMT -5
another thought - they make these little battery operated hand held fans - if you were to place the propellor only on the water it would at least create water movement...... that is a good idea.thank you very much sir!i'll go buy 1. |
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Post by eve on May 16, 2009 18:04:53 GMT -5
my concern is that if you have no power to keep water circulating, the tank is going to environmentally collapse as a safe ecosystem - how is your last fish able to survive by moving him to anothr tank if you are still powerless? i took the risk on the other angelfish.i took the chance that maybe he would survive the transfer to the other tank.this morning it ate,after 2 days of not eating. that is great, i hope you soon get your power back what i would do is also doing 10% water changes daily until you have power again |
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Post by danny on May 16, 2009 21:30:32 GMT -5
i took the risk on the other angelfish.i took the chance that maybe he would survive the transfer to the other tank.this morning it ate,after 2 days of not eating. that is great, i hope you soon get your power back what i would do is also doing 10% water changes daily until you have power again yes,ma'am i do partial water change to all the tanks everyday..very tiring.haha! |
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