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Post by goldenpuon on Dec 12, 2008 20:04:32 GMT -5
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Post by Carl on Dec 13, 2008 11:39:30 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing Renee!
I have seen many goldfish surgery videos, these are often very interesting! Generally it is best to add an antiseptic after finishing the surgery, such as Mebromine if it can found (otherwise MB, neosporin can substitute)
The last video is far more likely a case of both fish being sick, the one fish that is still alive has obviously poor respiration. I agree that many YouTube comments get out of hand, I know I have moderate comments from my videos that are rude, crude, etc. I have also read many that are just plain evil IMO, so for this reason, unless it is my videos (for moderation purposes) I just do not read the comments.
Carl
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Post by goldenpuon on Dec 13, 2008 17:20:10 GMT -5
Glad you liked them! That's why I don't post video on YouTube. I don't take mean comments well and I'm not good at defending myself.
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Post by bikeguy33 on Dec 13, 2008 19:53:22 GMT -5
actually carl....funny you mention that fish being sick. i left a comment just like that on youtube about those fish last night. great minds think alike....lol.
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Post by goldenpuon on Dec 13, 2008 22:11:36 GMT -5
I actually didn't notice much wrong with the one that was alive. So I quickly watched the video again and I noticed that the fish was breathing a little hard. Also, if the fish laying down next to the other fish wasn't just an act of mourning like its owner mentioned, I agree that it could also be dying though not that easy to see yet. I noticed that it's dorsel fin went down during several times in the video, not a good sign.
I actually still had trouble noticing much wrong but maybe if I knew as much as you guys I would notice. It shows how good at this you are!
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Post by sammiesam on Dec 13, 2008 22:14:11 GMT -5
I can pet my goldies. They just don't even care, if you're just really gentle and stuff its not a big deal, its not any worse then them rubbing up against ornaments and stuff. They feel really soft,specially when they brush their tails again me
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Post by goldenpuon on Dec 13, 2008 22:18:07 GMT -5
I'm trying to teach mine to do that. Yesterday I put my hand in the 40 gallon with the goldfish and didn't move it. Eventually they relaxed enough to swim right past it (and nibble at it a little lol). I could feel their tails and body's brushing against my hand. It was very nice. Now I just have to teach them to go into my hands. lol My goldfish are only about 3 inches so I'd have to be more careful not to injure them than say a 6-7 inch goldfish. With 1-1 1/2 inch long guppies, I'd petting is a "no no".
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Post by bikeguy33 on Dec 14, 2008 1:30:37 GMT -5
actually if you do it proper, you can pet any fish.....and you can tell alot about their health by the feel of the slime coat
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Post by goldenpuon on Dec 14, 2008 10:41:55 GMT -5
Wow, ithat's fascinating Bill! How can you tell if they're healthy by their slime coat?
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Post by Carl on Dec 14, 2008 11:02:42 GMT -5
actually carl....funny you mention that fish being sick. i left a comment just like that on youtube about those fish last night. great minds think alike....lol. Thanks Bill! Renee (not to answer for Bill, I am sure he can add more), the best way to look at the slime coat in fish is to compare to the epidemis (skin) of humans as removing the slime coat in fish has a similar result as removing your skin. Some fish such as goldfish have a much "thicker" slime coat which is some fish "go after" goldfish to suck this off, which of coarse can result in infection or worse in the goldfish. This is also why natural long term slime coat generation which is to have the proper mineralization/electrolytes in and out of the fish provides (as well as a Redox Reducing environment). Products to temporarily add slime coats are certainly a good short term solution, but long term natural generation is what is most important. IMO this is an aspect of GH, calcium, etc. that is often missed in the aquarium hobby. Carl
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Post by cashay on Dec 14, 2008 12:06:00 GMT -5
The mollies I have will come up and nibble on my fingers and actually arm If I need to get something out of the tank, they will let me touch them like they have been around humans forever! surprised me!
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Post by sammiesam on Dec 14, 2008 14:00:57 GMT -5
tehe my new betta percy, is a crazy fish and when i put my hand in the tank to clean or to try and get some food downt o the frogs he attacks my arm and rams into it and stuff.
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Post by goldenpuon on Dec 14, 2008 16:04:18 GMT -5
lol My bettas will let me touch them. I haven't tried getting them to go into my hand yet but I will trt. They're really tame and gather in the corner and jump whenever I come near the tank with food. I think they're putting on a show to say ""Feed me!!!"
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Post by bikeguy33 on Dec 14, 2008 18:23:20 GMT -5
as far as the slime coat goes....carl pretty much answered it perfectly. once you know breeds of fish well....you know how slimey they should feel. pretty much tho, the slimier the better.
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Post by goldenpuon on Dec 14, 2008 19:12:09 GMT -5
As long as they don't have that sliminess of the skin disease (forgot the proper name). lol
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