hab13
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Post by hab13 on Dec 3, 2008 20:01:14 GMT -5
Wow thanks, I'm impressed...I live here and I didn't even know that about my water...
well sorry, I'm sure you guys think I'm never going to leave you alone but I have some questions about "cutting" the water.
I assume that RO is reversed osmosis water, is that correct?
Also I read the articals on pH, KH and GH and it says its more important to keep the pH stable than at the most desirable level so do I add a certain % of RO each water change to maintain a stable pH?
And do I just guess and check which % of RO to regular tap water to get the pH and KH to the right levels?
AND FINALLY, I also read changing the pH can really stress out the fish so do I wait till they aren't sick to mess with the pH levels or do they need those levels lower to get better?
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Post by murdock6701 on Dec 3, 2008 20:21:15 GMT -5
since I have already "exalted" somone in the last hour.....I will take a moment to personally exalt Carl here on this post! you may all not see the work he does "behind the scenes" as it were, but here is an perfect example of it right out in the open! the man goes the extra mile everyday to make life better for us! I raise my water bottle in a toast to your honor Carl!
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Post by Carl on Dec 3, 2008 21:21:46 GMT -5
Thanks Bill & John Wow thanks, I'm impressed...I live here and I didn't even know that about my water... well sorry, I'm sure you guys think I'm never going to leave you alone but I have some questions about "cutting" the water. I assume that RO is reversed osmosis water, is that correct? Yes Yes, a stable pH is more important than the actual number in most instances, however you are quite high for your type of FW fish. You will need to add a certain amount of RO with each water change, how much you will have to determine with tests, but as a starting point I would add 10% That is correct, however small changes such as 10% addition of RO should not change your pH or KH too rapidly, and with subsequent water changes the pH and KH should get a little lower each time (you may have to increase the amount of RO though) I would "shoot" for what ever amount of RO is needed to lower pH by .2 The addition of Peat, Driftwood or Bio Lif will also slowly and gently lower pH/KH over time as well. The key is to take your time Carl
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Post by kagome on Dec 4, 2008 13:30:22 GMT -5
well sorry, I'm sure you guys think I'm never going to leave you alone but I have some questions about cutting the water Don't worry a bunch of us ask a ton of questions all the time. Sometimes I worry that I'm being a pest but then I think "That's what Carl and Jon get for being so smart!" lol I don't know what I would do without you guys! ;D
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hab13
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Post by hab13 on Dec 6, 2008 18:44:03 GMT -5
ok new question...
I started treatment on dec 02 at night and have continued through today, the treatment was furan II in the tank once daily and two medicated baths per day(bath included one gallon of water from the tank, 1/4 teaspoon epsom salt, ten drops of methylene blue, and a double dose of furan II for 1/2 hour).
I also have been cutting the water with RO and the pH is at 8.2 as of tonight
I have noticed signifigant changes in the goldfish's eye however it is deffinately not better yet and the rainbow shark has shown some fin regeneration but only in the less damaged fins, the really bad ones have not visibly gotten any better and the have a white cloudy film on the ends
I'm wondering if the treatment is helping enough or if I need to be doing something else?
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Post by Carl on Dec 6, 2008 19:06:57 GMT -5
This may take several days treatments, and as well the slowly improving water quality will help as well.
On a negative note, sometimes fin damage can be so deep and systemic that all the meds in the world cannot help.
Are you adding any medication to the bath as well?
Also add 1 tablespoon of plain salt to your main aquarium during this time of treatment (if you have not already)
Finally I think you have Regular Wonder shells on hand if my memory is correct, so add one of these in the main tank as well if you have not already.
Carl
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Post by goldenpuon on Dec 6, 2008 19:34:24 GMT -5
Carl, when you say plain salt, don't you mean aquarium salt? I didn' think you would use table salt.
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Post by Carl on Dec 6, 2008 19:43:54 GMT -5
Carl, when you say plain salt, don't you mean aquarium salt? I didn' think you would use table salt. I mean sodium chloride (NaCl). This also includes water softener salt which is an economical alternative to aquarium salt. Of coarse there is Cichlid Salt, but this has other elements as well, & I usually do not use this for treatment purposes. Carl
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Post by cashay on Mar 2, 2009 15:44:32 GMT -5
he actually checked mine before also! and gave me feed back which helped alot, I was very impressed then and still am! ;D your awesome Carl... KUDO"S!!
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Post by Carl on Mar 3, 2009 13:58:20 GMT -5
he actually checked mine before also! and gave me feed back which helped alot, I was very impressed then and still am! ;D your awesome Carl... KUDO"S!! Thanks Cashay Carl
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Post by cashay on Mar 9, 2009 11:13:31 GMT -5
your welcome! I only speak the truth!
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