Puffer Tumor? Help?

[puffercorps]

I thought i'd post some pics for you of what i believe is a tumor in the right gil of my big Walmart GSP Sea Nugget.

It just showed up Friday nite and by now (Sunday) its grown 3x's its size, and faster by the hour now. 
He is hanging in the current, breathing is becoming labored, as the thing is blocking him up.

Googling blogs say nothing can be done.

If by some miracle i can cut the thing out, i will, but I don't have any fancy scalpels, just a boot and a buck knife we use for neuterin cats.

Any suggestions, I'm sure Sea Nugget would greatly appreciate. 

Thanks

[Carl]

If you can get a scalpel, this would be a good way to deal with this.
I do not figure you to be squeemish, so I know you can do this

Here is a video dealing with the removal of a lesion:
youtu.be/63WOLFVaoK8

Otherwise a fish bath using Methylene Blue, sodium chloride, epsom salt and Usnea brewed like a tea is what I would suggest

Usnea resource:
www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumMedication4.html#usnea

Carl

[devonjohnsgard]

I'd add a Mythlene Blue swab before the baths. The way the tumor is progessing, maybe even Hydrogen Peroxide or Potassium Perm swab. Then the baths.

[puffercorps]

 Rhodes has signed on as my assistant, and we are going forward with surgery tomorrow. Our patient is fasting tonight, and I can hit a medical supply for gloves and a scalpel in the morning 

Anesthesia is going to be the challenge.  
The location of the offending protuberance renders the head first position, employed in the boot immobilization technique, impracticable. We're exploring other options.

 Rhodes, suggests using the freezer as a Paralysis Induction Chamber. This is our current method of euthanasia. My assistant is a leading authority in the art of anesthetism. His area of expertise is self induction, so I am not convinced that the freezer, or the fridge, are a safe option.

Clove oil is a popular method I'm looking into.

The video doesn't show if any kind of anesthesia, or anesthetizing topical agent was used prior to surgery. Judging by the fish's reaction, I'm convinced Sea Nugget, and I, are both going to need something to steady our nerves. What ever means we choose, it's got to be fail safe. I'll be moving through the procedure as quickly as possible. Sea Nugget must stay perfectly still for at least 30 seconds or my patient could end up filleted.

Thanks for your confidence in my gastroparesial fortitude. I'm no vegetarian, but i get kinda sick thinking about cutting into a fish when he's my buddy.
 



Wish us luck.

[Carl]

I would suggest the use of Clove oil.

I also second Devon's suggestion of MB directly to the tumor before any treatment


Here is a link for anesthesia

www.research.psu.edu/arp/anesthesia/fish-anesthesia


Triple Sulfa would be a good follow up to prevent infection

Carl

[devonjohnsgard]

Also... The clove oil is for the fish. For your nerves, your going to want something like Vodka or Whiskey...Doctors orders.

[puffercorps]

Sea Nugget was admitted to OR at 14:00.
labored breathing, no other remarkable changes

Pre O.:Sedation: Sea Nuggett- Clove Oil 1d/1c x1qt, Physician - Beringer Chardonnay 8ozz
Prep: Scrub Methalene Blue/Hydrogen Peroxide

O.R.: INCISIONAL BIOPSY of 5mm mass was performed .subcutanious attachments remaining.

P.O.: uneventful

Prognosis-POSITIVE

[Carl]

Apr 5, 2016 12:35:08 GMT -5 devonjohnsgard said:

Also... The clove oil is for the fish. For your nerves, your going to want something like Vodka or Whiskey...Doctors orders.

Did you take the Vodka or Whiskey or maybe Tequila for yourself?

BTW, good job

Carl

[devonjohnsgard]

This thread. So official! Good job Puff Doc!

[puffercorps]

I still retain some of the lingo from my job as a veterinary tech to another pioneer, Dr Joseph Campbell, who much like our mentor Mr Strohmeyer, was a man of discovery. Dr Campbell set the course in human ophthalmology by inventing the artificial lens for cataracts patients. Spent hours holding perfectly still, staring down a microscope, holding a dogs cornea with tiny forceps, while he dug around and spouted Rush republican rhetoric.

im very glamorous, you know.

Beringer Chardonnay is my pre-op poison.


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[puffercorps]

Sad news.
Sea Nugget has succumbed to the dreaded post surgery bacterial aftermath, of whom I am to blame.

I learned some hard lessons at the expense of my friend Sea Nugget.

I learned that a good fish shepherdess can't get 0 cal sports drinks at 7-11, so keep some in the medicine cabinet (thanks Devon).

I also learned that being a big woosy won't make it shrink,

and never put Rhodes in charge of videography unless its an art project.

[Carl]

Apr 6, 2016 20:11:43 GMT -5 puffercorps said:

Sad news.
Sea Nugget has succumbed to the dreaded post surgery bacterial aftermath, of whom I am to blame.

I learned some hard lessons at the expense of my friend Sea Nugget.

I learned that a good fish shepherdess can't get 0 cal sports drinks at 7-11, so keep some in the medicine cabinet (thanks Devon).

I also learned that being a big woosy won't make it shrink,

and never put Rhodes in charge of videography unless its an art project.

so sorry to read this

But you made a valiant effort!!

Carl

[puffercorps]

Thank you, Sir!
My ultimate goal is to prove my worthiness to be amongst you, and your devotee's.

[puffercorps]

Apr 4, 2016 17:20:46 GMT -5 devonjohnsgard said:

I'd add a Mythlene Blue swab before the baths. The way the tumor is progessing, maybe even Hydrogen Peroxide or Potassium Perm swab. Then the baths.

Hey Devon, Do you use Potassium Perm for regular injuries? or just tumors. I have an injured figure 8 being helicoptered in.

[Carl]

Potassium Permanganate is a strong oxidizer and should be diluted 50/50 with water before direct application.
As well it is not good for open sores and this can actually cause further injury. Methylene Blue, Mebromin, or Hydrogen Peroxide are better choices for open sores.

From our Aquarium Medication Article Part 3:
"*Care should used that any direct application does not get in fish gills or any serious necrosis of fish tissue as potassium permanganate will burn the gills and further exasperate any necrosis of tissue."

Product Source:
www.americanaquariumproducts.com/TetraJungleHikari.html#permanganate

Carl