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Post by sdboers on Oct 6, 2014 12:42:35 GMT -5
Correct - I am using well water. I don't have any recent results for iron content - but I know for a fact there is iron and iron bacteria in my water. I am using Prime as a water conditioner that should nullify any heavy metals after the water treatment equipment.
With respect to buying water in jugs... While a good idea in theory - I simply can't stomach that approach. I have to be honest with myself. Between the cost of buying water every week and the effort of lugging 5 to 10 jugs a week, I can pretty much guarantee my water change regime will suffer - as will my fish. To be further honest - I'd rather part with more dollars than time. If I had to go the RO approach, I'd be installing an RO system specifically for the fish tank. Not saying I won't necessarily end up there.
Sean.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 11:29:12 GMT -5
This is for Sean,
Post an update. Were you able to save some of your son's fish?
I have re-read all of the posts for more details on what happened (and did an update to my own post). There was so much going on, that I missed some of the details. I had just joined the forum when I read this thread the first time.
I didn't "know" you when I originally read this post -- but "met" you when I read your blog about your aquarium. I do know that some fish can die almost instantly from too much salt in the water....I killed a few fish by increasing salt only a little bit. I regularly use 1/2 tablespoon for every 5 gallons. Once, just adding an additional tablespoon or two to my 75 gallon sent a cory cat spiraling to the top and died (it was almost instant - but may have also been a coincidence as other issues were present at the time). I also killed a clown pleco with a little extra salt and a clown loach (the clown loach deserved to die, but I didn't mean to kill it. He was way too aggressive and would swim around poking fish - often aiming for their eyes).
Carl has detailed info on his site about catfish and salt - proving the catfish CAN tolerate the higher amount. Apparently, there is the occasional fish that can not. Stress will be reduced for my featherfish catfish today/this weekend. She does not like the additional salt in my 75 gallon (only one extra T). I am doing another 25% water change after I buy her more water. My fish get "Peacock" water (an Ohio company)- as they have four filling stations - further west from my house. Culligan is on my way out of town (to I-75 - east of town, so my son's fish get "Culligan").
Judy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 18:52:17 GMT -5
The fish behavior you described sounds like ammonia or some other kind of poisoning. Greetings Parker/All: These were the symptoms posted: - Breathing is rapid - Most are close to or resting on the bottom - Some lay over on their side and occassionally right themselves - Symptoms were literally within 10 mins of the water change I found while surfing the web today that those are symptoms of too much salt -- so yes, poisoning. I don't even remember what site I found that on now -- could have even been AAP? When I saw it, I knew the symptoms sounded very familiar. Sean, I hope you didn't loose all of the fish.
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Post by sdboers on Oct 16, 2014 8:39:59 GMT -5
Sorry for the late reply - I've been screaming busy these days. Too many projects on the go and winter just around the corner... We did manage to save most of the fish. Since I was running my 135g - I stole 20 gallons from it and did an immediate water change on his smaller tank. I knew the water in my tank was good... Over the next 24 hours, we lost a few in his tank, but the rest seemed to recover. All has been well since. We approach each water change now with a degree of nervousness... I have not had an issue with my new improved water change method - but without a definitive answer on what went wrong those 2 times - I'm unwilling to declare complete success. Sean.
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Post by Carl on Oct 16, 2014 9:54:54 GMT -5
I would simply stick with what you are doing that is now working.
The only way to truly know the problem would be to set up a "control" whereby you replicate this problem continually, then change methods multiple times.
Carl
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Oct 16, 2014 19:02:15 GMT -5
Sorry for the late reply - I've been screaming busy these days. Too many projects on the go and winter just around the corner... I know, right... We did manage to save most of the fish. Since I was running my 135g - I stole 20 gallons from it and did an immediate water change on his smaller tank. I knew the water in my tank was good... Over the next 24 hours, we lost a few in his tank, but the rest seemed to recover. All has been well since. We approach each water change now with a degree of nervousness... I have not had an issue with my new improved water change method - but without a definitive answer on what went wrong those 2 times - I'm unwilling to declare complete success. I can understand what you mean. Maybe you can also check your water source each time before the WC.
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