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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 7, 2011 16:25:27 GMT -5
I was looking at the tank last night and saw my largest goldfish Saylme doing something very silly: using the current from the filter like an underwater treadmill! lol
In reality, it just wanted to eat the bubbles coming from the filter current but it was hilarious seeing it swim against the current of the filter as if it was in a weight loss program. ;D
And I thought I had witnessed every possible antic a fish could do! lol
Also, if anyone has anything else funny their fish do, please feel free to share.
Renee
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Post by Carl on Apr 7, 2011 18:30:05 GMT -5
If you could get a video, this would be interesting to see ! ;D
Carl
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 8, 2011 18:44:02 GMT -5
I will see if I can get one (provided the fish decides to do this again). If not, I will film the fish just being their silly selves. They have grown a LOT since I last posted a video of them.
Renee
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 8, 2011 23:46:56 GMT -5
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Post by babygeige on Apr 9, 2011 18:38:53 GMT -5
Your pictures and videos turned out really nice! Your fish look really vibrant and pretty!
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 9, 2011 21:28:50 GMT -5
Thanks babygeige! XD I take very good care of them.
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Post by Carl on Apr 11, 2011 9:53:43 GMT -5
Your picture and video taking has really gotten good! If I saw correctly; in the beginning of the last video, this is the behavior/antic you noted earlier in the thread? You fish are also looking healthy and the tank in general looks top notch!!! Carl
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 11, 2011 12:27:19 GMT -5
Thanks. I discovered what settings on my camera produce very high quality pictures and which do not.
It was not actually, although I am sure there were some antics in the videos (knowing my goldfish). lol It would be hard to catch the fish that did the exercise stunt, Salyme, doing that at exactly the same time I have out my camera. But If I never see the fish doing that again, I'll run for my camera and film it.
I am glad they are looking healthy to you. I clean each of these tanks every 2 weeks along with a water change. Everything except the glass that is. After all, the fish don't care about that. lol
Renee
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 11, 2011 16:09:56 GMT -5
In a twisting turn of fate, one of the goldfish from the videos of the 40 gallon, Aztec, is now sick.
Aztec has VERY long fins, is orange, and in the video had three tears in its tail fin that are now healing.
This morning, I saw Aztec twitching (NOT spasming) like it was irritated by a parasite of some sort itching it. I didn't give it much thought, went to class, came home at 3:30 and glanced over at the fish tank to see Aztec very briefly go to the bottom.
Aztec's dorsel fin was down partially (never a good sign) and appeared weak. Though its longs fins make it harder to steer in the current of the bubbler and filter, this is typically not a problem for it. But this afternoon was having a hard time not getting stuck into the current (it is not super strong).
I am unsure of what Aztec has. I looked the fish over with a light. I noticed something on one of its pelvic pair of fins (a whitish area possibly spots or something else.) It also has some kind of whiet discoloration on its tail.
PLEASE NOTE however that many of my fish in that tank get discolorations on their tails that come and go. Another fish, Alden, has had that on and off for over 2 and a half years now. Whatever it is seems to be some kind of disease teh fish normally keep in check. I was firt very worried when it appeared but now just keep an eye on it.
Anyway, what I suspect Aztec has is ich. Luckily, none of the other fish appear to have ich or be ill. (Though it is hard to tell with the white discolorations on it: they seem to have increased since aztec got sick and also since it tore its tail fins, however, they may be something else altogether and not the source of the illness) I suspect ich due to the fish's symptoms and also a lot of experience with ich in my early fish-keeping time. I could be wrong however.
I put some towels over the tank to descrease the stress on Aztec caused by the illness. The fish seems better but not 100%. I also added enough salt for about 30 to 40 gallons (I thjink I may have added the salt too fast) on top of the amount I already have (this is about a a tablespoon per 5 gallons).
I fed Aztec and the rest of the fish. Aztec is eating eagerly and foraging which is great to see.
I should also note that in the past 2 days, the temperature in the tank has gone from a steady 65-67 (which it has been all winter) up to 75 or so due to a brief warm-up outside.
Lastly, Aztec was is not a young fish: I got him/her in September of 2005 from a tank of feeder fish at a petstore.
As well, Aztec had an accident about 4 or maybe more months ago that probably weakened it a bit thought it fully recovered. It got stuck in my sponge filter's intake tube and lost scales on one side and its face. It was on the bottom a few hours after but recovered in under a week.
To my question, what kind of treatment sound I give it? I have a hands-off approach when it comes to my goldfish and do not treat them with medicine unless I am fairly positive they cannot figth what they have on their own with minor assistance. I have taken this approach with Aztec and other goldfish that were under the weather or mildly ill and they have always gotten better. I am aware that ich is very contagious and cannot be killed off by the fish itself. However, I know ich is present at basically all times in the tank and if a fish recovers enough to build up a good slime coating, it can keep itself from becoming sick/ward off the illness this way.
That said, should I leave the towels on the tank and the salt content up for a day or so and see how the fish does or should I take stronger action and treat the tank with something like Paraguard or a large sized wondershell?
I do not think this is from old age. Aztec is a strong fish and not ready to pass IMO. (Sorry for my rambling.)
Any advice/help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Post by Carl on Apr 11, 2011 18:15:18 GMT -5
Renee, since it does not seem too far advanced at this point; I would continue with the salt (which your amount is fine in my experience). Based on what you have stated, I probably would add at least medium Medicated Wonder Shell (possibly a large left in half the day at a time). Carl
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 11, 2011 19:45:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the help Carl. I'll keep on doing as I am then. I will add the wondershell tomorrow if I don't see much improvement or the fish worsening. At the moment, Aztec seems to be doing well with the darkness from the towels and possibly already improving. It was begging for food this evening with the other fish, is not clamping its fins, and doesn't seem to be as irritated by whatever parasite it has.
Thanks.
Renee
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 14, 2011 10:34:16 GMT -5
For an update, Aztec is continuing to do well. She/he is not acting sick and no other fish are coming down with anything although a bit nervous around me because I have been staring at him/her to check for illness more than usual. I plan to leave the tank darkened with the towels for a week or so more.
Renee
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 20, 2011 21:42:49 GMT -5
Good news. Aztec appears free of ich spots (he/she had what looked like them before). As well, no other fish are sick and Aztec's fins tears from before are healing well.
I did a 33% water change on the 40 gallon Aztec and the other fish are in today. I think I may have been a bit rough when cleaning so I am planning on keeping the tank dimmed out for longer because of that in case of any stress making them more suspetible to getting sick.
When I did the water change, I added salt but not as much as usual so the salt content is down a bit from previously when I raised it to help Aztec.
Al the fish ar doing very well and begging like in the videos above. Salyme is growing a lot right now and Foneme, the thin fish, seems to be growing a bit bigger too right now.
Renee
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Post by babygeige on Apr 23, 2011 9:27:24 GMT -5
Glad Aztec is doing better! Nicely done!
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Post by sammiesam on May 10, 2011 23:09:42 GMT -5
Hey Renee, Glad your goldies are doing well, i find Goldies to be fairly hilarious most of the time. Mine like to attack my hands when i clean the tank and they play a game I call hit and run where they run into me on purpose then take off to the other side of the tank Also I have some pork chop rasboras they bubble surf I have a bubble wall in the tank and they dive into it and swim straight down against the current like you were talking about your goldie doing lol
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Post by goldenpuon on May 11, 2011 15:51:58 GMT -5
Thanks babygeiege (sorry for my very late response.)
Sammiesam: That is really cool. Your goldfish are like mine then silly-wise. The only thing they are lacking is playing "hit and run". I have noticed taht if one fish dioes something, the others might do so too. Meaning if your goldfish and mine were in the same tank, mine might learn the game.
That's really cool about the rasboras. I haven't caught Saylme doing that again but I bet she/he has. Their antics last hours after I feed them so I always miss quite a bit.
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Post by babygeige on Jul 13, 2011 20:24:52 GMT -5
I tried to get a picture of this last night, but the only camera I had nearby was the camera on my phone and it didn't turn out as I'd hoped. Anyway, my mom noticed that the pleco in my 55 gallon was "levitating." He was at the front of the tank, and must have been resting only a root of the anubias plant. From where we were standing, all you could see was the pleco hovering one or two inches off the gravel. This one little plant was supporting my 7 inch pleco like he weighed nothing, it was so funny looking. In my mind, I could imagine him being so relaxed, like how we feel when we float around on our backs in the pool, lol.
My cell camera is so frustrating. Sometimes it takes brilliant pictures at a nice resolution, and sometimes it just changes to lower res on its own. That's what happened last night. I have no idea why it does that, or how to get it to change.
Anyway, if I see the pleco do it again, I won't be so lazy, and I'll go get my camera. Hopefully I'll be able to get a picture of it. It's so funny!
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Post by goldenpuon on Jul 14, 2011 1:59:02 GMT -5
That does sound funny. The only thing left to happen is for another fish to use him as a hammock as he's floating like that. lol For your cell phone, does it have different settings for pictures? It took me years to figure out the rigth settings to use on my camera for fish. I just had to find the right ones and not use the default picture-setting. Hope that helps. Also, my own fish in the 40 gallon have started to slash me during feeding. Next time there's a couple drops of water on the carpet after I feed the fish, my mom won't be able to blame me for not being careful. lol As well, while soaking the pellet food for Oranda and Puon, I caught them both nibbling at the clear container floating that contains the food being soaked. But how did Oranda figure out to nibble there? The fish is blind. Either way, very silly. The fish wish they could nibble through plastic. LOL
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Post by babygeige on Jul 14, 2011 15:53:51 GMT -5
The annoying thing about the camera on my phone is that I can only specify file size (large, medium, or small) or if I want widescreen. It's normally set on widescreen. I just switched it to large, but that cuts off the sides. I'll have to look around online and see if anything comes up.
Oranda trying to nibble through the plastic container is interesting. Maybe she/he's not completely blind...?
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Post by goldenpuon on Jul 14, 2011 22:39:39 GMT -5
I see. Hmm. Does anyone else in your family have a camera/ Maybe you could borrow one from them. Also, your pictures in the past have been superb I think (they may have not been taken with that phoen of course.) That is possible but I doubt the fish can see more than light and dark and at the most- extremely blurred and distorted shapes. The sac/lens is clouded over on one eye and is covered by another clear one. For the other eye, I also think the sac is cloudy on the outside. Not totally sure though. I'd have to look but now the fish are sleeping. I have no idea if Oranda' actual eyes are intact but I hope so. My guess on how Oranda figured that out is it it can feel Puon wandering around and searching for food. It picks up on sound signals and goes by Puon's behavior. In thie case, i accidently left the food soaking in a plastic container with water in the tank for an hour intsead of 5-10 minutes! So Puon had time to figure out the container was holding food and for Oranda to follow I guess. One thing is for sure, fish are smarter than we give them credit for!
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