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Post by sammiesam on Feb 15, 2010 12:16:21 GMT -5
Tank Size: 20g Age of the tank: .....too long? pH: Ammonia: NitrAtes: nitrites: GH/KH: Temperature: 78-80 Fish: Yoyo loach - about 2-3 years old Symptoms: I just noticed this morning a huge wound on his side. I am guessing it's been there longer than today because he is usually hiding in his little cave that he has claimed as his own, he doesn't even let the other loaches near it.
But it's quite the huge wound. I am gunna attach pictures once I download them.
I just want to make sure that it's just a wound, not some sort of disease that you guys might be able to pick up.
I am currently treating him in a methylene bath with salt.
On hand I have melafix, furan 2 and neomyacin (a tiny bit left).
I also noticed that the other loaches are bugging him alot so I was thinking of transporting him to the frog tank while he's injured, that's a 10g tank with only 2 frogs in it at current (percy died a couple months ago  )). Would this be a good idea for a couple days or will any medications I want to use hurt the frogs?
PS: Sorry I haven't been around in a long time, been crazy busy, just got back yesterday from winnipeg with the team and the weekend before that was a home game and before that was regina and before that was vancouver lol....just to get the point across, I've been travelling almost every weekend while trying to do a full course load. I hope everything has been going well for everyone.
I will attach some pictures in a few mins.
Thanks guys
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Post by sammiesam on Feb 15, 2010 12:27:35 GMT -5
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Post by murdock6701 on Feb 15, 2010 16:12:07 GMT -5
definitely looks like a wound to me! sorry I'm not smart enough to tell you what to do - isolation is a good thing so he doesn't become a target from your tetras
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Post by Carl on Feb 15, 2010 16:32:17 GMT -5
That is definitely a nasty wound. I also agree with isolation. Direct application of MB to the wound would be a good idea, and if possible direct application of the human medication Neosporin following the MB can be helpful too. Melafix is a good first treatment for injury, but this is quite serious and appears to have a serious Columnaris infection going on, so the effectiveness of Melafix at this point is questionable. An in tank treatment of Nitrofurazone (Furan 2) and Kanaplex is what I would recommend. Salt in the water and a temperature of about 23 C would also be suggested Carl |
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Post by sammiesam on Feb 15, 2010 20:41:49 GMT -5
Thanks Carl,
Now, with isolation, he is going into a tank with two african dwarf frogs, I don't have a tank to put him in all by himself, but the frogs won't bother him at all.
And I am not sure that Kanaplex can be used with them??? Not sure.
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Post by Carl on Feb 16, 2010 10:38:21 GMT -5
I have never observed a problem with Dwarf frogs and Kanaplex (in fact I treated an infection before in ADF with Kanamycin), so I think you should be fine.
good luck
Carl
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Post by sammiesam on Feb 16, 2010 21:29:43 GMT -5
Furan 2 as well?
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Post by sammiesam on Feb 16, 2010 21:37:46 GMT -5
nvm I finally found some information posted about furan 2 and frogs, its listed as a treatment for regleg so I am assuming that it is fine to use on frogs  Thanks Carl |
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Post by Carl on Feb 17, 2010 10:48:24 GMT -5
nvm I finally found some information posted about furan 2 and frogs, its listed as a treatment for regleg so I am assuming that it is fine to use on frogs Thanks Carl OK, sorry I did not answer this part Carl |
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Post by sammiesam on Feb 17, 2010 17:39:20 GMT -5
Update:
Hey, just letting you guys in on Rufus's status
He seems to be doing fairly well.
He is reluctant to eat but when I finally got him into his little cube for his meth bath last night, I got a couple blood worms in the container as well that had been in the tank for him to eat, and by the end of the bath they were all gone, so he is eating.
He seems to be happier in this tank alone, he was pretty active this morning when I came home, which is good, the wound looks about the same currently.
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Post by babygeige on Feb 19, 2010 18:36:24 GMT -5
Wow, poor Rufus! That's a doozy of a wound!
I'm glad that he's doing ok now that no one is picking on him.
Keep us posted. I hope he gets better soon!
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Post by sammiesam on Mar 5, 2010 21:30:24 GMT -5
Just an update guys,
he is doing really well, he's still in his own tank with the frogs and healing nicely. I am just waiting for him to heal fully before i put him back in the 20g with his loach buddies.
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Post by Carl on Mar 5, 2010 21:36:31 GMT -5
Just an update guys, he is doing really well, he's still in his own tank with the frogs and healing nicely. I am just waiting for him to heal fully before i put him back in the 20g with his loach buddies. Good job Sam! ;D He did not look very good, so I am really happy for you and your fish. Carl |
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Post by goldenpuon on Mar 7, 2010 11:28:56 GMT -5
That's great news. I'm glad he's healing well.
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Post by sammiesam on Apr 4, 2010 20:42:29 GMT -5
So...
Rufus went back home today into the 20 g, he was like 99.9% healed, a little bit of a scar, skin fully back looking good.
But i think i foudn the cause of the problem because i put him back in and him and lil PI instantly start going at it again. I figure, yoyo loaches have a dominance hierarchy so they are just re-establishing that since he's been out of the tank for so long.
But after dinner and whatnot I look at him and his spot where his wound was is irritated again and swollen.... so PI has been attacking him there.
Do I let them fight it out and hope they stop, or could this other fish have been the cause of the original wound all along and should I remove him again?
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Post by Carl on Apr 5, 2010 8:46:09 GMT -5
Hi Sam;
My thoughts are to keep them separate in what ever way is easiest/best for you.
I am willing to bet that PI was the original cause, especially since Rufus healed so quickly once separate.
Carl
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)). Would this be a good idea for a couple days or will any medications I want to use hurt the frogs?
Thanks Carl
