Betta recovering from disease but still need help.

[goldenpuon]

Tank Size: 1 gallon
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I have a female betta who has gotten sick as of late. She was active, vigorous and still growing even when she got. She is 2 years and 3 months old (born at my house). Although she is sick now, she is still acting perfectly heathly aside from her appearance.

When I last did her water change, I noticed she was pineconing on one side. Immedietely I suspected dropsy but her other side was fine. I had never heard of dropsy only affecting one side.

So I phoned Carl and he recommended that I treat her in her 1 gallon with Kanaplex and Methyline Blue. And also to closely monitor the ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate since MB kills nifrifying bacteria. So far I have tested the water and there have been no problems with that.

I just gave the fish the 3rd and final dose of Kanaplex today (the box says the maximum you should give is 3 doses). I have been doing 25-50% water changes every other day when administering the Kanaplex and adding 10 drops per gallon of methyline blue as well on these days.

Right now, she is better but is still pineconing at one side a little. The probelm is my mom forced me to throw away the Methyline Blue after a pretty large spill and will not allow me to get any again.

So I was wondering how to proceed on the fish's treatment from here. I finished the treatment of Kanaplex so I'm guessing I should wait a few days, do a water change, and then resume on that if her side isn't further returning to normal on its own.

Should I treat he with something else in addition to the Kanaplex since I won't be adding the MB in combination with it anymore? Aso, how many days should I wait before I resume the Kanaplex treatment?

Also, out of curiousity, do the medications Paraguard and Potassium Permanganate easily stain things? I have both of these at my house and have used them but would just like to know in case something were to happen with them.


On the note of the Methyline Blue again, it is a shame that I had to throw it away but it has stained the carpet and seems to get stain the bathtub I do water changes in no matter how hard I try to avoid it. As of late, a few small dried flakes of MB had gotten on the floor when I unscrewed the lid. And when they got moistened from when I did the water change, they changed to liquid and stained the floor. Methyline Blue has saved a few of my fish but has caused more frustration with hours of scrubbing and my mom being upset with me for staining things. So I hope everyone can understand the reasons that I cannot use it anymore.

Thanks you very much.

Renee

[Carl]

Potassium Permanganate stains as well and is a strong oxidizer, its use is more for external problems.

As for staining, carpet is definitely something to avoid with MB, however porcelain will not hod a MB stain and generally after a few days the stain slowly disappears.

There are not many alternatives for MB, although Acriflavin, Nitrofurazone and especially Medicated Wonder Shells (which contain MB) can be tried.

Carl

[goldenpuon]

Thanks for the info Carl.

I will try a wondershell or nitrofurazone then if she needs further treatment. However, are they safe in combination with Kanaplex? I want to make sure since I am planning on continuing with that as well if she needs me to continue treatment.

[Carl]

Nov 20, 2009 18:17:24 GMT -5 goldenpuon said:

Thanks for the info Carl.

I will try a wondershell or nitrofurazone then if she needs further treatment. However, are they safe in combination with Kanaplex? I want to make sure since I am planning on continuing with that as well if she needs me to continue treatment.

Yes, Kanaplex is safe with Nitrofurazone (an excellent compliment), however Nitrofurazone has limted internal usefulness.

Kanaplex can also be used with Medicated Wonder Shells

Carl

[goldenpuon]

Great news! When I looked at her this morning, the pineconing at her side was totally gone! She is begging for food and wanted to jump out to get it while I was looking at her from the top view. XD

I'll keep an eye on her and medicate her as you prescribed if I see it coming back. But it doesn't look like it will. Thanks very much for all the help you gave. I know you are very busy but you took the time to help me anyway. I have greatly appreciated that you helped me so much despite this! Thanks again.

Sincerely, Renee

[kagome]

I'm very glad to hear that your fish is doing better! You did a great job of taking care of her. Soory to hear about the MB.

[goldenpuon]

Thanks but I still have some underlying problems for why my bettas keep getting sick. They all have their 1 gallon containers in a heated plastic tub that keeps growing saprolegnia no matter how many times I change out the water. I'll have to buy a reptile heat lamp for them to keep them warm. As of now, my fish keep getting sick. I am another sick one (which has cottony stuff eating at its fins) since yesterday. As well, I have many other sick fish right now. I am going to be posting a new thread about it.