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Post by danny on May 10, 2009 7:54:46 GMT -5
Tank Size: 20 gallons Age of the tank: 1 year pH: 7-7.5 Ammonia: .? (i don't have a kit,not available in our area;can't afford online buying) NitrAtes: .?(i don't have a kit,not available in our area;can't afford online buying nitrites: .?(i don't have a kit,not available in our area;can't afford online buying GH/KH: .?(i don't have a kit,not available in our area;can't afford online buying Temperature: not below 22degrees celsius(i keep my tanks outside;i'm from philippines) Fish: angelfish(pterophylum scalare) Symptoms: i have observed that 1 of my female angelfish has a swollen belly,i thought that it's dropsy,but it doesn't have the pine cone impression on it's scale.right now i'm thinking that it might have eaten too much.i am not feeding her for 2 days now.
besides the undigested food theory,what could it be?what are some "home" remedies that can help my angelfish?thank you very much.
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Post by Carl on May 10, 2009 9:33:50 GMT -5
What do you feed her? What is your filtration, or do you change water regularly (changing even a small amount such as 5-10% per day can duplicate what is also referred to as "flow through water changes/filtration")? How many other fish are in this tank? You could try a salt bath: Aquarium Disease Prevention; Section 9, BathsCarl |
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Post by goldenpuon on May 10, 2009 9:36:24 GMT -5
She may have constipation (yes even fish get that) or it may be dropsy. Are her scales pinconing? Fastin her a few days is a good idea as is a bath with epsom salt. The link Carl gave explains it in detail.
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Post by bikeguy33 on May 10, 2009 10:16:34 GMT -5
I think what you are doing now is the best option. the wait and see method for short periods of time, with a few exceptions is always the best. fasting for 2 days is good.....see if the swelling goes down, if not, maybe something as minor as a diet change may be in order. other than the swallen belly, is the rest of her behavior normal??? how old is she???
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Post by kagome on May 10, 2009 16:24:20 GMT -5
Could she just be gravid?
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Post by danny on May 11, 2009 9:16:17 GMT -5
What do you feed her? What is your filtration, or do you change water regularly (changing even a small amount such as 5-10% per day can duplicate what is also referred to as "flow through water changes/filtration")? How many other fish are in this tank? You could try a salt bath: Aquarium Disease Prevention; Section 9, BathsCarl i feed her smaller pellets sir.. filtration is sponge filter(the tank was their former breeding tank). i change water 50% weekly. they are 4 other fish in the tank. thank you fo the link,i'll read it. |
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Post by danny on May 11, 2009 9:21:10 GMT -5
She may have constipation (yes even fish get that) or it may be dropsy. Are her scales pinconing? Fastin her a few days is a good idea as is a bath with epsom salt. The link Carl gave explains it in detail. i think that too ma'am..i think she is constipated.no,her scale is not pineconing. |
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Post by danny on May 11, 2009 9:25:05 GMT -5
I think what you are doing now is the best option. the wait and see method for short periods of time, with a few exceptions is always the best. fasting for 2 days is good.....see if the swelling goes down, if not, maybe something as minor as a diet change may be in order. other than the swallen belly, is the rest of her behavior normal??? how old is she??? i have her for about 8months now..her behavior is normal,she is still active as before and always begging for food. |
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Post by danny on May 11, 2009 9:26:11 GMT -5
Could she just be gravid? well she hasn't have spawned yet. |
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Post by Carl on May 11, 2009 11:35:16 GMT -5
i feed her smaller pellets sir.. filtration is sponge filter(the tank was their former breeding tank). i change water 50% weekly. they are 4 other fish in the tank. thank you fo the link,i'll read it. What are the ingredients of the pellets? I recommend soaking pellets for about 5 minutes in water prior to feeding to allow air to be released prior to fish ingestion, otherwise this can cause bloating or worse (such as Aeromonas). Carl |
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Post by danny on May 14, 2009 0:20:47 GMT -5
the belly is still bloated,although she is not acting sick(still shows normal behavior)..what could be wrong with her?
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Post by goldenpuon on May 14, 2009 15:39:41 GMT -5
You were saying the power went off in your house. Is she in a tank affected by the power outage? If the filter/aerator isn't working, that could be part of the problem. If she has not doing well, being without a filter or something for circulation will definietly not help. I second Carl about soaking the food. This can help/prevent problems like this some of the time. Also, I would recommend you put her in a bath with epsom salt. I recently tried it and the it really helps teh fish a lot. I had a bett having trouble swimming upward and it looked like she would die. I gave her about several baths, and she is as good as new if not better. See Carl's bath article for more details. www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Disease.html |
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Post by bikeguy33 on May 14, 2009 15:43:39 GMT -5
i have my doubts here....but there is a cichlid disease called malawi bloat. i doubt this is it, but read this article and tell me what ya think. I seriously have my doubts because it is extremely rare in anything but africans....but have a read and let us know what ya think.... www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/malawi_bloat.php |
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Post by danny on May 16, 2009 3:00:45 GMT -5
You were saying the power went off in your house. Is she in a tank affected by the power outage? If the filter/aerator isn't working, that could be part of the problem. If she has not doing well, being without a filter or something for circulation will definietly not help. I second Carl about soaking the food. This can help/prevent problems like this some of the time. Also, I would recommend you put her in a bath with epsom salt. I recently tried it and the it really helps teh fish a lot. I had a bett having trouble swimming upward and it looked like she would die. I gave her about several baths, and she is as good as new if not better. See Carl's bath article for more details. www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Disease.htmlshe wasn't on the affected tank.strangely,she is still acting normal,in fact she is the dominant in the tank |
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Post by danny on May 16, 2009 3:08:35 GMT -5
i have my doubts here....but there is a cichlid disease called malawi bloat. i doubt this is it, but read this article and tell me what ya think. I seriously have my doubts because it is extremely rare in anything but africans....but have a read and let us know what ya think.... www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/malawi_bloat.phpwell sir,she doesn't match the symptoms of loss of apetite.she always beg for food and still dominates the other angelfish.she really still behaves normal. |
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Post by goldenpuon on May 17, 2009 15:36:01 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying. If she seems alright, then perhaps there isn't much wrong with her. How big is her belly? Perhaps she is big because she is full of eggs or maybe even a deformity. Just throwing out some ideas.
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Post by danny on May 19, 2009 4:39:23 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying. If she seems alright, then perhaps there isn't much wrong with her. How big is her belly? Perhaps she is big because she is full of eggs or maybe even a deformity. Just throwing out some ideas. she has been with me for about 3months now.she doesn't have a bloated belly until last week.i guess i think it's not a deformity.  i stopped the fasting after 4 days since i think she really is hungry,and yet her belly is still bloated.she has a pair/mate now,we'll just have to wait if that are really eggs ;D |
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Post by danny on May 29, 2009 0:15:11 GMT -5
hey,the bloated belly is taking it's toll to my female angelfish.she is now always at the bottom as if her belly is heavy.she stills want to eat but she is unable to go to the top.i tried sinking pellets but she won't take it.i think she's gonna die.  |
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Post by eve on May 29, 2009 2:18:53 GMT -5
this sounds like she has constipation, or even worse, dropsy
does she have pine conig?
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Post by danny on May 29, 2009 9:30:40 GMT -5
this sounds like she has constipation, or even worse, dropsy does she have pine conig? no ma'am,no dropsy symptoms,no pine coning.she still displays normal behavior until she sank.she still attempts to go to the surface to feed but just can't.a few weeks ago i tried to feel her bloat,it is very soft. |
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