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Post by corycatwoman on Feb 18, 2009 19:17:49 GMT -5
one of my guppies had a weird thing on its back right behind where its neck would be. looked like someone gave it a haircut and gave it a flat top. i decided the guppy was really inexpensive soo i imediatly took it out of the tank and disposed of it correctly. i did some reasearch and its most likely columnaris. but im not sure. i did all the water checks everything is stable and normal. the thing that is interesting to me is this is in the 10 gallon tank thats been established and my glass cats have been extremely healthy and normal. what would cause a disease in a tank that is pretty much perfect. thanks in advance James  |
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Post by goldenpuon on Feb 18, 2009 20:16:17 GMT -5
Did you get rid of the guppy or is it still alive? When I first got guppies at Petsmart, they came down with cotton wool (also called columnaris as you mentioned) and fin rot. Plus I think they had a gill parasite as well. 2/3 lived (1, my oldest guppy "Irene Fish" I still have today) My point is cotton wool (columnaris) is treatable. Try not to dispose of fish unless there is little or no hope of it recovering. And since cotton wool collects on plants, if it is indeed cotton wool, you'll need to starilize anything you have in the tank with white strongy stuff (cotton wool) growing on it. That happened in my tank when I was medicating and as it fell off the fish, it kept recollecting on the plants. It is also contagious so more than 1 fish can come down with it if there was a sick one in there. Also, could you post pictures of the fish with columnaris if you still ahve the fish? that would be helpful for a diagnosis. Carl also has an article on columnaris. Here's the link plus another I looked up on Google. www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Columnaris.htmlfreshaquarium.about.com/cs/disease/p/columnaris.htmGood luck! |
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Post by bikeguy33 on Feb 18, 2009 20:16:43 GMT -5
first off james....till you knew the problem for sure....i wouldnt have disposed of a 1000 dollar fish or a 13 cent feeder....especially when you dont know for sure what the problem is. carry on with how you are doing things and watch for symptoms in another fish. it may have been nothing or it may come back...you never know....
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Post by corycatwoman on Feb 18, 2009 21:51:42 GMT -5
no sorry renee i already disposed of it. and i don't have any plants in the tank they were all transferred before i let the guppies out of there breeding box.
my 36 gallon tank is clear everyone's doing fine in there.
and the rest of my fish in the 10 gallon are fine as well i am going to do a water change in the morning and also clean out the gravel at the same time.
i did take pictures of it but they didn't come out clear.
and i only disposed of it because i did not want it to transfer to my ghost catfish cuz i know that if they were to come down with anything. that they are too fragile to survive. i apologize if anyone disagrees with that but i made the decision as to save 7 fish instead of losing about 5. i know the guppies would have survived. but the 3 cory cats and the glass catfish wouldn't survive any kind of skin fungus or disease. and i read up on it before i disposed of the fish. and it eats away at the flesh of the skin. soo i had to make the tough decision right then.
sorry,
James
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Post by goldenpuon on Feb 19, 2009 9:37:25 GMT -5
That's ok. I have actually done the same thing when I had no place to put a sick fish and many others were at risk. Just know that it's not hopeless if one fish is sick. If the other fish are healthy, even if the disease is contagious, they may fight it off for a bit before they get it or even not get it if you put the right meds in the tank fast enough.
Good luck with the rest of your fish.
Renee
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Post by Carl on Feb 27, 2009 13:10:32 GMT -5
I hope this comes across well, however I would caution ever using anything from about.com as often their articles are among the most anecdotal and poorly researched on the internet (& Google is terrible about bring up junk articles as well which is why I strongly recommend using either Yahoo or MSN for research NEVER Google). Admittedly this is one of the better about.com articles, however it still has some errors such as: "Because the bacteria thrive on organic wastes". This applies more to Aeromonas than Columnaris. As well the article implies salt may be used to prevent Columnaris in Livebearers ONLY when in fact this flies in the face of good research at the University of Florida showing that salt can actually cure Columnaris in salt sensitive catfish.. Carl |
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Post by corycatwoman on Feb 27, 2009 13:43:45 GMT -5
carl im sorry to make you reply or modify but the link you posted didnt come up if you could pm me the link or modify the post so the link shows up that would be much apreciated.
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Post by eve on Feb 27, 2009 14:18:21 GMT -5
what are you talking about there is no link in carls post, just a quote from the article |
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Post by goldenpuon on Feb 27, 2009 14:56:43 GMT -5
Sorry about that Carl. I didn't know where else to look and you weren't there so I thought I should give Corycat woman a few links. Also, sorry if that mislead you Corycatwoman.
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Post by corycatwoman on Feb 27, 2009 15:28:59 GMT -5
im sorry thaught it was a link.
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Post by Carl on Feb 27, 2009 16:10:40 GMT -5
Sorry about that Carl. I didn't know where else to look and you weren't there so I thought I should give Corycat woman a few links. Also, sorry if that mislead you Corycatwoman. That is OK Renee  I was not trying to be a butt, however I felt this was important to note since I find so many errors in about.com articles (one identifying detritus worms as Planaria that is now being anecdotally posted around the internet is DEAD WRONG). As well I am not against looking for other articles, I would suggest using Yahoo or MSN over Google since Google gives way to much weight to what it calls "authority sites" such as about.com or DMOZ that generally are quite the opposite of this when it comes to quality of content. Add a ".edu" to your search might bring up some university sites as well. Carl |
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Post by goldenpuon on Feb 28, 2009 9:49:25 GMT -5
Sounds like a good idea. I will be careful in my search next time and only use MSN or yahoo.
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