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Post by Carl on Jul 16, 2016 12:39:09 GMT -5
Good job Devon at showing (exposing) the difference!
Carl
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Post by Carl on Jul 16, 2016 12:39:55 GMT -5
What is missed by these scammers and those obviously supporting this by their thumbs down in Devon’s video is a recognition of history and the inability in recent years to utilize mentors. I have been very involved in this industry since the 70s (even longer in the hobby), where my earliest research was in fish nutrition. I used my many accounts, in particular the Bahooka Restaurant with over 100 aquariums (mostly over 75 gallons) to test fish food formulas. I was soon known at trade shows as the “Green Flake” man for a highly digestible fish food by Aquatronics that performed much better than any other food tested in long term fish health and more. I later wrote an article which has been updated many times about fish nutrition. This allowed for even more research, and later my online meeting with Clay whom later would take on partners for the food later to be called Paradigm. While Clay gets most of the credit of what would later be Paradigm, his interest in fish food came in part from his reading of my fish nutrition article and interactions on the Everything Aquatic Forum. This copying the formula and the partners who would later take credit in the brand Paradigm, actually had NO hand in its development. Nor do they have a hand in the improved formula that is better at limiting protein and still retain the appropriate texture and nutrient levels by being cooked correctly at the optimum temperature. I have also been able to evolve into the main distributor for the ATI Hydro sponge Filter (not just retailer) because of my work and experiments here too. Ditto my very intensive research into the use of UV Sterilizers which was then followed by my Redox Research Back to the use of mentors which seems a lost art of late in this hobby based on cut and paste YouTube, FB, forum, etc post is the simple use of Mentors. This allows this type of misinformation to be stopped dead in its tracks. For me as an example, I had an awesome mentor in Dr. John Herzog for fish medications along with the researchers at Aquatronics for fish treatments and nutrition, Bill with Prestige Aquariums for the use of silicone, cutting glass and proper aquarium and stand design. There are others too. Instead of just looking at marketing, maybe “My Aquarium Box” (who made what I would deem as highly offensive and insulting comments in an email) and those who appear to side with scammers based on their thumbs down on Devon’s video should try educating themselves first on some history in this industry and may find someone who has been around to mentor them?? www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Quality_Fish_Food.htmlCarl
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Jul 16, 2016 14:02:01 GMT -5
Instead of just looking at marketing, maybe “My Aquarium Box” (who made what I would deem as highly offensive and insulting comments in an email) and those who appear to side with scammers based on their thumbs down on Devon’s video should try educating themselves first on some history in this industry and may find someone who has been around to mentor them?? Very well said. I'm thankful for mentorship I've got in this hobby. Also understand the aquatic history part of it is one thing most all miss or even care to know. I've come across people who's like...what history, where's the textbook? This hobby/industry has been around for some time, it's not just new since the social media days. Honestly will win out. Might take some time, but always wins out. It's just down to who wants to side with it, or who's out for themselves.
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Post by Carl on Jul 18, 2016 11:37:24 GMT -5
Also understand the aquatic history part of it is one thing most all miss or even care to know. I've come across people who's like...what history, where's the textbook? This hobby/industry has been around for some time, it's not just new since the social media days. Honestly will win out. Might take some time, but always wins out. It's just down to who wants to side with it, or who's out for themselves. I sure hope honesty will win out, but I have to admit the way social media drives everything anymore regardless of truths, facts, experience, etc. has me deeply concerned. Just look at the use or a good RO system versus elaborate RO/DI systems. You have Mr. Saltwater Tank and others stating you MUST have the DI chamber. WHY? Years of experience says otherwise, but good marketing by scammers (IMO) has allowed this to now be gospel. These marketers will sell inferior salt and alkalinity/calcium/mineral products for marine aquariums, then tout the need for 0 TDS an no ions in a marine tank that is normally high in both. Better is the use of clean, nitrate free water with low TDS (but 0 is NOT imperative) and use a better salt mix and maintenance method. Ditto for freshwater tanks. Personally I see dark days ahead for our hobby/industry if social media marketing has its ways Carl
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Post by childofiam on Jul 18, 2016 12:02:51 GMT -5
Also understand the aquatic history part of it is one thing most all miss or even care to know. I've come across people who's like...what history, where's the textbook? This hobby/industry has been around for some time, it's not just new since the social media days. Honestly will win out. Might take some time, but always wins out. It's just down to who wants to side with it, or who's out for themselves. I sure hope honesty will win out, but I have to admit the way social media drives everything anymore regardless of truths, facts, experience, etc. has me deeply concerned. Just look at the use or a good RO system versus elaborate RO/DI systems. You have Mr. Saltwater Tank and others stating you MUST have the DI chamber. WHY? Years of experience says otherwise, but good marketing by scammers (IMO) has allowed this to now be gospel. These marketers will sell inferior salt and alkalinity/calcium/mineral products for marine aquariums, then tout the need for 0 TDS an no ions in a marine tank that is normally high in both. Better is the use of clean, nitrate free water with low TDS (but 0 is NOT imperative) and use a better salt mix and maintenance method. Ditto for freshwater tanks. Personally I see dark days ahead for our hobby/industry if social media marketing has its ways Carl But at least here we know the truth... and the truth causes us to excel in the Hobby with out wasting money on fabrications or half truths about products. Most of our youth that has grown to adulthood was never taught how to determine if something is true or not. They never question anyone who says they know what they are talking about. We find this in so many forums today and if you dare challenge them you get attacked over and over and then if you ask another question no one will answer you... "because you are a trouble maker as I was told once". The blind being lead by the blind syndrome... Richard
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Post by Carl on Jul 18, 2016 12:25:10 GMT -5
But at least here we know the truth... and the truth causes us to excel in the Hobby with out wasting money on fabrications or half truths about products. Most of our youth that has grown to adulthood was never taught how to determine if something is true or not. They never question anyone who says they know what they are talking about. We find this in so many forums today and if you dare challenge them you get attacked over and over and then if you ask another question no one will answer you... "because you are a trouble maker as I was told once". The blind being lead by the blind syndrome... Richard Good points! What is frustrating, as you already noted, is when I respectfully challenge these persons; at the least I am moderated out. Worse, I am banned, worse yet I am mocked and acted as if I am the bad guy. Examples included standing up against lies put forth by a popular so called lighting expert who literally mocked my work. Yet where is she today as she bailed on the hobby/industry? However she is still worshipped while I am still the enemy by those who fall for this social media marketing and refuse to learn from others and the deep history this hobby actually had long before social media existed. This reminds me of the quote often attributed to Joseph Goebbels (Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister): "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it."Carl
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Jul 18, 2016 14:30:12 GMT -5
My hope is to keep up with the social media curve and have people to come to know us as a company the same way. People tend to get mixed up in all the misinformation, then find our site and go wow. We've now going stronger than ever on Youtube, which I think will help...One thing we have over all the others, is our presence in Google. Others might have Facebook or Youtube, but if people are willing to sit down and read, the learn a huge amount about the hobby, but also the history. Carl and I say we have a college level class going on.
We're coming to a generation which rely more on YouTube than just Google, so I'm thinking the new strategy for Youtube is going to work.
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Post by childofiam on Jul 18, 2016 14:41:01 GMT -5
But at least here we know the truth... and the truth causes us to excel in the Hobby with out wasting money on fabrications or half truths about products. Most of our youth that has grown to adulthood was never taught how to determine if something is true or not. They never question anyone who says they know what they are talking about. We find this in so many forums today and if you dare challenge them you get attacked over and over and then if you ask another question no one will answer you... "because you are a trouble maker as I was told once". The blind being lead by the blind syndrome... Richard Good points! What is frustrating, as you already noted, is when I respectfully challenge these persons; at the least I am moderated out. Worse, I am banned, worse yet I am mocked and acted as if I am the bad guy. Examples included standing up against lies put forth by a popular so called lighting expert who literally mocked my work. Yet where is she today as she bailed on the hobby/industry? However she is still worshipped while I am still the enemy by those who fall for this social media marketing and refuse to learn from others and the deep history this hobby actually had long before social media existed. This reminds me of the quote often attributed to Joseph Goebbels (Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister): "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it."Carl Remember... the Bible says over and over... The truth will always come out and liars will be mocked by it...(Paraphrasing) I will always trust God's word over what anyone will ever say! I feal for you brother because I have been there so many times... Richard
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Post by aqualady on Oct 24, 2016 6:47:03 GMT -5
I remember, I wanted to be a distributor for this food and I automatically been told no. I asked why and she assumed that I didn't have the necessary licenses to do so. I thought it was the way I look, I'm not all suit and tie, I dress like what they call young, street, or thuggish lol. So instant messaged her the pictures on my wall of my certification, diplomas, and honors, I didn't get a reply back... I wanted to distribute this product in my town because everyone was tired of paying for shipping or waiting for fish meets to get some and saw that I was the right candidate to do so. How good this product is, alot of my friends stopped using it because of that.
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Post by Carl on Oct 24, 2016 9:05:41 GMT -5
I remember, I wanted to be a distributor for this food and I automatically been told no. I asked why and she assumed that I didn't have the necessary licenses to do so. I thought it was the way I look, I'm not all suit and tie, I dress like what they call young, street, or thuggish lol. So instant messaged her the pictures on my wall of my certification, diplomas, and honors, I didn't get a reply back... I wanted to distribute this product in my town because everyone was tired of paying for shipping or waiting for fish meets to get some and saw that I was the right candidate to do so. How good this product is, alot of my friends stopped using it because of that. Sorry this happened. I am surprised though, as I found she took too many sellers too fast, often resulting in not enough product to sell due to demand,' The newer updated formula by fish food gure Clay Neighbors is even better with more optimized energy levels and protein amounts. The new formula is found here: www.americanaquariumproducts.com/ParadigmFoods.htmlThis article explains more about fish nutrition: www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Quality_Fish_Food.htmlCarl
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Oct 24, 2016 12:52:45 GMT -5
Sorry also. It does require a business license to redistribute the food. Maybe she thought you didn't have that.
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Post by aqualady on Oct 24, 2016 21:15:56 GMT -5
It's cool. And thanks for the links.Yup she didn't think I had it. But I showed her as well as my many other licenses. Hunting, concealed carry, food handlers, business, distribution. Marina aero and freight import and export require it. Guess it wasn't mea t to be. It would probably be alot of work but I love challenges and being put under pressure.
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Oct 25, 2016 11:57:36 GMT -5
It's cool. And thanks for the links.Yup she didn't think I had it. But I showed her as well as my many other licenses. Hunting, concealed carry, food handlers, business, distribution. Marina aero and freight import and export require it. Guess it wasn't mea t to be. It would probably be alot of work but I love challenges and being put under pressure. Well its available now. So, if you would like to try it, it can be purchased at retail and wholesale cost.
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