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Post by angelminx on Feb 9, 2015 20:00:26 GMT -5
Okay, I went to Petco after church Sunday to pick up the rainbows (they still had them--and actually had 3--and had agreed to hold them for me). I had Peyton (the girl that does the ordering) bag each one separately so they would not be overly stressed. What was weird was, that the fish had been swimming around all relaxed, and when Peyton (very easily and gently) scooped the 1st one up he immediately fainted  ! He then "floated around" on the bottom of the specimen container on his "side", with his back oriented towards the bottom  . We watched him for a bit before trying for the others, and after a bit he gave a few twitches, and eventually would make a few short struggling zips through the container before lying back on his side on the bottom. I decided to let him lie there for a while without being disturbed and go ahead an catch the others 2...same leisurely netting process... no problems. I decided to go ahead and get the 1st fish, too (he still hadn't recovered), because I could always bring him back if he didn't make it. They didn't have any Methylene Blue, and were out of Stress Coat (they only use it if asked), so Payton placed the 1st rainbow's bag into a small black plastic bag, in case that might help to calm it--I always transport my fish inside an insulated container for the ride home, so they do get the added benefit of the darkness, but we figured anything extra to help him wouldn't hurt. I'm definitely no expert, but I think I have 2 males and a female. I put them thru a 9 hour acclimation period (usually I just use a specimen container, but for them, decided to use the "fish bucket" for the acclimation process this time), before making sure the water temps matched, then adding them to the 10G with King, Munky and a couple rabbit snails (that I had previously moved there for the protection of my young sword plants--I caught them in the act of vandalizing them) and small ghost shrimp. Since the 10G was getting such a bio-load increase, I added Prime, Stress Guard, and Stability, as well as some ParaGuard--there's already a MWS in the tank. I repeated the Stress Guard, Stability, and ParaGuard today). They seem to be doing well today, and even ate (I gave them freeze-dried bloodworms). Here are a series of Photos I have taken of them (this is while adjusting their water temp before beginning the acclimation process):    The 1st fish is the "fainter", and it is the 3rd that I think is the female. |
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Post by angelminx on Feb 9, 2015 20:04:45 GMT -5
These next 2 pics are before adding MB to the bucket (they are joined by the 2 female Black Phantoms that I picked up at the same time):   This is the one shot I got before I went to bed:  |
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Post by angelminx on Feb 9, 2015 20:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by angelminx on Feb 9, 2015 20:14:50 GMT -5
The next are close-ups I made from the pics I took today:  The "female" is shown in these 2 ("she" is the one on the bottom in the center photo):   |
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Post by angelminx on Feb 9, 2015 20:17:32 GMT -5
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Post by angelminx on Feb 9, 2015 20:21:42 GMT -5
These are the last ones from today:    It looks like I have 4 rainbows, but there's only the 3; maybe later I can get some more...hopefully including a few more girls! |
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Post by Carl on Feb 10, 2015 10:46:47 GMT -5
Good luck with your new acquisitions!  They look a bit thin, so you might provide more smaller feedings over a couple larger feedings. As a side note, I would suggest pulling the Medicated Wonder Shell while using the SeaChem Stress Guard, if only for a day or two (a regular Wonder Shell can be added during this time for mineral Cations). Also when a MWS is present, only use a half dose of ParaGuard Product Reference & tips: www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Seachem.html#stressguardCarl |
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Post by angelminx on Feb 10, 2015 18:20:27 GMT -5
Thanks, Carl, I'll remove the Medicated Wonder Shell for a couple of days and just go with the Stress Guard and ParaGuard for that amount of time, till the guys get settled, then I return to the MWS.
The one I'm most worried about is the "female", because she is so much thinner than the "guys". I've only given them a couple of small servings so far, as I didn't want to stress them too much over the 1st couple of days while they got used to things...all 3 are definitely eating. Last "night", about 3 AM, I turned on the flashlight for a quick look, and one of them was front and center, with its fins fully extended. This morning they didn't seem to be so timid, but I left "early" and only recently got back home, so I haven't had a chance to sit down and watch them yet. They did stay at the front of the tank when I went in to feed them when I got home, and there is no fighting for food from any of the tank's inhabitants...of course I haven't given them any frozen bloodworms yet, so King hasn't had anything to really fight over, LOL.
Angelminx
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 23:40:18 GMT -5
Hi Angelminx,
Frozen bloodworms are my rainbows favorite food treat. They don't get them at every meal... but do get them several times a week. They may get too fat if fed frozen bloodworms every meal.
Cheers,
Judy
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Post by angelminx on Feb 11, 2015 19:37:27 GMT -5
Hi Judy,
I usually only feed frozen foods once a week (I keep the thawed cube in the refrigerator in some water--used to help thaw it--in an unused medicine cup), and stretch it out over the day--and between the 2 tanks. I've found that if I feed too many cubes (can't get the smaller sized cubes out here) in a week I end up with algae problems. I fed them some today, and the "little girl" kept missing out because she was looking in the wrong direction, and most of the time, before she had a chance to grab one someone else would beat her to it. I try to take out a "pinch" of worms at a time and drag my fingers through the water to disperse them. That usually gives everyone a shot...that is, IF they're paying attention. She did get a couple though. She doesn't always hang out with "the boys", though she does spend SOME time with them. She does spend a bit of time "off in a corner" by herself, so I usually try to get a glimpse of her whenever I go past the tank, to make sure she's "okay".
Angelminx
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Post by angelminx on Feb 13, 2015 15:32:13 GMT -5
I was feeding the Rainbows this morning, and noticed that the female seems to be having trouble zeroing in on a particular piece of food (noticed this last night, too). She will dash towards a falling flake (I haven't checked this with granules or bloodworms yet) and zip right past it, then stop and "look around" as if wondering where it went. This happened quite a few times. I will be keeping an eye on her to see if this continues. Maybe it has to do with the size of the piece of flake? I wonder...(besides "the Incredible Mr. Limpet") do fish ever need glasses (LOL)?
Angelminx
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Post by angelminx on Feb 13, 2015 16:14:42 GMT -5
I was just going over my last couple of postings and noticed that a comment I thought I had posted on the 11th wasn't there. I was sure I saw it the other day, but maybe I accidentally deleted it instead of posting it. The comment was about how I find it interesting that the Rainbows are so "sinuous"/flexible--something I didn't know before-- especially noticeable from above. From ~ the middle of their bodies to their tails they seem to have "no" bones  ! Angelminx |
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Post by angelminx on Feb 16, 2015 20:45:30 GMT -5
Well, my "little girl" is eating, but she still misses the food every once in a while. When I feed the Hikari Micro Wafers, she will go after them, but has a tendency to spit them right back out. She likes the Betta pellets I throw in on occasion. I plan on feeing the frozen bloodworms later this evening.
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Post by angelminx on Feb 17, 2015 17:30:22 GMT -5
Loves the frozen bloodworms... if she can get to them before anyone else snatches them practically out of her mouth  ! I'd love to take some video of this, but I can't feed and run the video at the same time  .
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Post by Carl on Feb 18, 2015 14:44:00 GMT -5
Loves the frozen bloodworms... if she can get to them before anyone else snatches them practically out of her mouth ! I'd love to take some video of this, but I can't feed and run the video at the same time .
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Post by angelminx on Feb 19, 2015 16:49:16 GMT -5
One of these days I'll have to look into getting a tripod... sooo many things to buy! I took some more videos last last night (I haven't downloaded any of them to my computer, yet), and had to try and hold the flashlight, focus it on what I wanted to show, keep it steady on the subject, and try to follow and record all at the same time . I have trouble holding the camera with one hand and using the same hand to start the recording...a couple of times I was thinking it was recording, and it actually hadn't. Either I didn't push the button all the way, or a twitch in my finger caused it to immediately stop recording--I did have one recording that was only 1 second long--so I'm thinking that is what is happening. I missed some good video of the "baby" Amano because of this. Also, every time I tried to record the Banjos, they stopped moving around . I thawed some SF Bay Emerald Entree last night (fed some shortly before turning the lights out, some later in the "evening"--for the Banjos, etc.--and the rest this morning), the rainbows went nuts over it, too.
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Feb 19, 2015 17:35:50 GMT -5
Prop the camera up on something. DIY tripod...
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Post by angelminx on Apr 8, 2015 19:25:55 GMT -5
Noooooo!!!  After doing my water change this afternoon, I was swabbing my female Dwarf Neon Rainbowfish's mouth with Potassium Permanganate when she jumped to the floor, and as I stepped back to pick her up, she flopped right under my foot. There was no way I could save her, she was still kicking, but her intestines were coming out of her vent. I'd grown quite fond of her, too .
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Apr 9, 2015 8:04:35 GMT -5
Noooooo!!! After doing my water change this afternoon, I was swabbing my female Dwarf Neon Rainbowfish's mouth with Potassium Permanganate when she jumped to the floor, and as I stepped back to pick her up, she flopped right under my foot. There was no way I could save her, she was still kicking, but her intestines were coming out of her vent. I'd grown quite fond of her, too . oh no! So very sorry angelminx |
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Post by Carl on Apr 9, 2015 9:38:15 GMT -5
So sorry to read this Carl |
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! He then "floated around" on the bottom of the specimen container on his "side", with his back oriented towards the bottom 
. We watched him for a bit before trying for the others, and after a bit he gave a few twitches, and eventually would make a few short struggling zips through the container before lying back on his side on the bottom. I decided to let him lie there for a while without being disturbed and go ahead an catch the others 2...same leisurely netting process...no problems. 
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! I'd love to take some video of this, but I can't feed and run the video at the same time 
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