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Post by goldenpuon on Jul 1, 2011 23:00:31 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about the oscars getting attacked. If the acaras and other fish that attacked ever encountered the two oscars when they are fully grown, I bet the oscars would get their revenge. (Not that I think it would be desirable at all for the oscars to harm other fish in any way of course.) They do get very large. It depends on the fish of course. Some goldfish naturally don't grow as fast and fancy goldfish don't grow as long as comet goldfish (what I have.) All the goldfish I have were originally feeder fish and didn't expect them to live more than a few years on average with what I have read and got them just to give them better lives while they lasted. It turns out good tank conditions and care lead to a *much* longer lifespan even for fish that are inbred and were originally kept in very crowded/disease filled tanks at petstores. Went quite off-topic there.... Back to the subject of this thread, your oscars sound very cute and interesting. They have inspired me to dd some research on oscars to learn more about them. Renee
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Post by jonv on Jul 4, 2011 2:36:15 GMT -5
Sorry late to this Angel, work always throws wrenches into time lol. 100 gallon tank probably is pushing it for just the oscars alone. Looking at it long term it can lead to some issues. I'll explain. Oscars when it comes to gender ID is almost impossible to tell in any way short of venting them. Venting itself is a hard process to learn. Now I bring up gender first as you have to consider you might well have 2 males and that 100 gallon space will cause friction between the 2 if it turns out to be that case. Now you may end up with a possible male/female pair that could bond too. They may choose to spawn and pretty much everyone else in the tank will get bullied into smaller spaces if that occurs. Nothing against the Oscars but at adult stage due to size and gender, that's about all I'd think to put in there. I think that's what Carl meant by "at this time" Looking forward that 100 gallon space is going to become quite small for them. I have a feeling the recent aggression you saw out of the usually calmer Acara is probably the Oscars beginning to try to assert themselves for space too. Acaras are not known to be highly aggressive as a species and why I did reccomend them to you. Firemouths are semi tempermental as well. I think the Acaras are probably just trying to hold space. A few months ago, I tried to put the Tropheus Dubosi in the 75 Mbuna tank. Within a couple hours, that Dubosi pretty much pinned the dominant Zebra Red Top male, the ruler of that tank, up to the top and wouldn't come down nor color up. Sometimes it's just a matter of "this is mine, and you are not welcomed here" thing with cichlids. I think that's what you see out of the Acara's for now and over time it would pass. In fact overtime I would suspect you'll find the reverse if you put the Oscars back in. It's harder too to balance out a SA cichlid tank because bonding occurs via pairs in most cases, where the Africans will harem group making it easier to mix up. Any failed bond with SA's more often then not lead to the male aggressing the female, or possibly if it's a weaker male, the female dominating him. I hope this gives you a few things to contemplate Angel and helps you out some.
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Post by Carl on Jul 4, 2011 9:20:33 GMT -5
VERY well put; nice to see you providing your well written responses too! "It's harder too to balance out a SA cichlid tank because bonding occurs via pairs in most cases, where the Africans will harem group making it easier to mix up. Any failed bond with SA's more often then not lead to the male aggressing the female, or possibly if it's a weaker male, the female dominating him."This was an excellent point too! BTW my comment "at this time" , your explanation was where I was going in my rather short unexplained answer Carl
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jul 8, 2011 2:50:49 GMT -5
Lol that helped heaps mate. I think as my fish grow I will just end up selling one by one. I do want to keep both oscars but if issues arise guess ill have only one. Right now my acaras are in the 70 and my angels sevs and oscars in the 100. Im enjoying my time with SA.s and as all my fish but angels are tiny, I do have time for decisions. I will be setting up another tank..i know when does it stop. A 6x2x2 for my oscars but that is some time away as I just dont have the room...literally lol. For now I need to decide what fish to keep in the 70 and who to sell, I also need to upgrade filtration. Ive ramped my water changes up for now. Btw thanks for suggesting acaras they are so pretyy, esp when they spawn
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Post by parker002 on Jul 12, 2011 22:57:15 GMT -5
Based on what I've observed of my in-laws' oscars, you might end up with only one whether you sell them or not...
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Sept 14, 2011 4:08:02 GMT -5
Ok so im looking at selling some fish now as the oscars are near 10-15cm. I want a canister filter but am unsyre of water turnover. I want to run the internal along with a canister. Will say a 1000lpr canister and a 800lph internal be ok if I just have the two oscars in a 100gal??
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Sept 14, 2011 4:09:17 GMT -5
Or should I look for a 1400 or 2000 litres per hr canister? Confused :/
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Post by parker002 on Sept 14, 2011 7:55:26 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, 100G is like 375L, so the 1000L/hr canister would turn over your water 2.5 times an hour all by itself (assuming a good quality filter with good head pressure and few or no inline add-ons like UV).
Just based on all the information I've gleaned from Carl and his articles, I'd say the two filters together would work just fine.
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