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Post by whynitica on Apr 18, 2009 2:10:23 GMT -5
Thought I'd post some vids of my unusual tank. Yes, it is overstocked. I bought all these fish as babies when I set up the tank in 2007 and haven't purchased a single fish since. The most unusual part of my tank is the variety of fish which breaks the "rules" of much fish keeping advice. I have tiny fish an inch long hanging boldly with fish 6, 7 even 11 inches long. A few oddballs in there as well. Also, many of the fish are, (in just little over a year), larger than most books say the max size is. Finally, click in the last link for a shot of one of the most amazing eartheater cichlids I have ever seen. Here's a list of fish with some video links at the bottom. 4 Black Bar Myleus "Tetra disco" "Blackear Pacu" (Myleus Schomburgki) over 6.5-7.5 inches 3 Common Silver Dollar (Metynnis Hypsauchen or Argenteus) 6.5-7.5 inches 2 Mystery Silver Dollars (Metynnis Mola or Luna) almost 5 inches 1 Flagtail (Semaprochilodus taeniurus) 11 inches 1 Silver Distochodus (Distochodus affinnis) 7.5 inches 1 Chinese Hi Fin "Hifin" Banded Shark (Myxocyprinus asiaticus) over 7 inches 1 Earth Eater Cichlid (Satanoperca leucosticta) over 7 inches 1 Rosy Red Minnow (Pimephales promelas) 4 inches 3 Angelfish (Pterophyllum scalare) 5-6+ inches 1 Keyhole Cichlid (Aequidens maroni) 4+ inches 5 Pleco (Plecostomus) 5-9+ inches 1 Royal Pleco (Panaque nigrolineatus) 6 inches 1 Blue Gourami ((Trichogaster trichopterus) 4 inches 4 Bumblebee Goby (Brachygobius xanthozona) over 1 inch 7 Black Neon Tetra (Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi) 1.5-2 inches 1 Rasbora (Rasbora heteromorpha) almost 2 inches 1 Darter Fish 3 inches 1 Bluefin Killifish? (Lucania goodei) 4 Hillstream Loach (Beaufortia kweichowensis) 2 inches 2 Horseface Loach (Acantopsis choirorhynchos) 5+ inches 1 Neon Blue Australian Rainbowfish (Melanotaenia praecox) almost 3 inches 6 Kuhli Loach (Pangio kuhlii) 4 inches 2 Ghost Shrimp (Palaemonetes) over 2 inches (body) 1 Bright red bamboo shrimp www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9bpi3bE3bEwww.youtube.com/watch?v=7jcp8_lUIW8www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VoyVNVEpsEwww.youtube.com/watch?v=pt377tU6tB0www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy7oFucTYPwwww.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhvWFVCB6Qwww.youtube.com/watch?v=l010jZaSbrEwww.youtube.com/watch?v=vZtY8aR9zS4www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtB3nqTkh3Mwww.youtube.com/watch?v=RBpjU5hP67YMany more on my youtube page.
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 18, 2009 10:37:14 GMT -5
Nice videos. I especially liked the pleco. He was really cute with the bamboo shrimp! Just curious, but what size is your tank? You're right. Your tank does look pretty overstocked.
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Post by eve on Apr 18, 2009 12:21:01 GMT -5
WOW very nice collection, and yes it looks really really crowded in there what size is the tank, it must be at least a 4 foot though or
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Post by bikeguy33 on Apr 18, 2009 16:13:27 GMT -5
what an odd collection. it is very very overstocked....but you very obviously have it properly filtered and you keep up with the water changes. the bumble bee gobies are tough to keep alive....especially in a purely fresh water tank. my hats off to ya....
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Post by kagome on Apr 19, 2009 0:20:46 GMT -5
That is the craziest fish tank I have ever seen. Pretty darn cool.
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Post by whynitica on Apr 19, 2009 0:35:32 GMT -5
thanks for your nice comments
85 gallons
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Post by goldenpuon on Apr 19, 2009 10:45:09 GMT -5
You're welcome. You have a very nice aquarium. It seems like your fish are doing very well despite the overstocking. Good job. Especially having the fish grow past maximum length in a crowded environemnt. You must have talent when it comes to fishkeeping. I would never be able to pull that off and have healthy fish.
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Post by murdock6701 on Apr 19, 2009 17:40:37 GMT -5
beautiful silver dollars! nice tank too btw! great job!
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Post by eve on Apr 19, 2009 19:54:28 GMT -5
thanks for your nice comments 85 gallons wow, i actually just counted your fish and you have over 40 of them in there including some shrimp what i'm wondering about, is how do all those fish get along temperature wise like the hillstroam loaches, which are the most coldest fish of all of the ones you keep in that tank what is your routine on water changes, feedings and stuff i would really like to know how you're able to keep all those fish together peacefully
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Post by Carl on Apr 20, 2009 10:45:56 GMT -5
Really nice fish and videos, thanks for sharing. Although the tank may be crowded, the fish look healthy, the tank looks clear. There is much more that goes into whether a tank is over crowded than just fish size per gallons alone such as filtration, water changes, feeding, water change schedule (especially flow through water changes which allow for VASTLY more crowded conditions than otherwise could be accomplished), Redox, etc. In time the numbers probably will need to be lowered, but since I do not have the facts, I cannot say for certain. To other members here, some troll has really gone through his videos and given him low marks, I would suggest if you have a YouTube account to go through an counter this with 5 stars if you feel so moved to do so. One suggestion is to add annotations to your video such as this one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=l010jZaSbrEThis would allow viewers to know which is fish is which. Again, enjoyed them all and gave you 5 stars on them all. Carl
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Post by Carl on Apr 20, 2009 11:11:30 GMT -5
As a side note, this article discusses the other determining factors for whether a tank is too crowded or not, as this is not often the black and white issue many make it out to be, especially in places like YA: Aquarium answers; Fish Stunting, tank sizeCarl
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Post by Chris4Reef on Apr 20, 2009 21:19:29 GMT -5
Im actually a super fan of the high fin loach.
I have owned 7 and they are somewhat difficult for me but they are incredible fish. They are becoming endangered so make sure you take good care of this beauty. They will get about 40 inches long, but have slow growth rates.
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Post by babygeige on Apr 21, 2009 12:14:33 GMT -5
Very nice! Thanks for sharing! I really love the bumblebee goby. Too cute!
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Post by whynitica on Apr 21, 2009 16:31:09 GMT -5
Nice videos. I especially liked the pleco. He was really cute with the bamboo shrimp! Just curious, but what size is your tank? You're right. Your tank does look pretty overstocked. thanks it's 85 gallons
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Post by whynitica on Apr 21, 2009 16:39:39 GMT -5
thanks for your nice comments 85 gallons wow, i actually just counted your fish and you have over 40 of them in there including some shrimp what i'm wondering about, is how do all those fish get along temperature wise like the hillstroam loaches, which are the most coldest fish of all of the ones you keep in that tank what is your routine on water changes, feedings and stuff i would really like to know how you're able to keep all those fish together peacefully Thanks for the comment. I keep the temp at 77 f. I know that this is a bit warm for fishes like the hifin but I keep the water very oxygenated with surface movement and a giant airstone. I use 2 rena's xp3 and xp4. I change about 65% of the water once a month an maintain a ph around or slightly above neutral. They ate about 3 to 4X/day when they were young but now only once a day. I do not follow the 3 minute rule but give small and various foods over a longer period. Food is gobbled up quickly. I feed at night so the loaches etc get food as well. This tank was an experiment and not something I would recommend. It's working for me but the risk is too great for me to recommend to someone else.
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Post by whynitica on Apr 21, 2009 16:41:17 GMT -5
Really nice fish and videos, thanks for sharing. Although the tank may be crowded, the fish look healthy, the tank looks clear. There is much more that goes into whether a tank is over crowded than just fish size per gallons alone such as filtration, water changes, feeding, water change schedule (especially flow through water changes which allow for VASTLY more crowded conditions than otherwise could be accomplished), Redox, etc. In time the numbers probably will need to be lowered, but since I do not have the facts, I cannot say for certain. To other members here, some troll has really gone through his videos and given him low marks, I would suggest if you have a YouTube account to go through an counter this with 5 stars if you feel so moved to do so. One suggestion is to add annotations to your video such as this one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=l010jZaSbrEThis would allow viewers to know which is fish is which. Again, enjoyed them all and gave you 5 stars on them all. Carl Carl, thankyou so much for this comment. It really means the world to me.
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Post by eve on Apr 21, 2009 17:49:31 GMT -5
wow, i actually just counted your fish and you have over 40 of them in there including some shrimp what i'm wondering about, is how do all those fish get along temperature wise like the hillstroam loaches, which are the most coldest fish of all of the ones you keep in that tank what is your routine on water changes, feedings and stuff i would really like to know how you're able to keep all those fish together peacefully Thanks for the comment. I keep the temp at 77 f. I know that this is a bit warm for fishes like the hifin but I keep the water very oxygenated with surface movement and a giant airstone. I use 2 rena's xp3 and xp4. I change about 65% of the water once a month an maintain a ph around or slightly above neutral. They ate about 3 to 4X/day when they were young but now only once a day. I do not follow the 3 minute rule but give small and various foods over a longer period. Food is gobbled up quickly. I feed at night so the loaches etc get food as well. This tank was an experiment and not something I would recommend. It's working for me but the risk is too great for me to recommend to someone else. awesome i think that's a perfect routine and setup, it's exactly what i do with my tanks actually, water change wise yes, that's exactly how i feel just because it works for you, there is no way of guaranteeing it would work for anyone else great job on keeping them so healthy
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Post by whynitica on Apr 28, 2009 15:14:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the comment. I keep the temp at 77 f. I know that this is a bit warm for fishes like the hifin but I keep the water very oxygenated with surface movement and a giant airstone. I use 2 rena's xp3 and xp4. I change about 65% of the water once a month an maintain a ph around or slightly above neutral. They ate about 3 to 4X/day when they were young but now only once a day. I do not follow the 3 minute rule but give small and various foods over a longer period. Food is gobbled up quickly. I feed at night so the loaches etc get food as well. This tank was an experiment and not something I would recommend. It's working for me but the risk is too great for me to recommend to someone else. awesome i think that's a perfect routine and setup, it's exactly what i do with my tanks actually, water change wise yes, that's exactly how i feel just because it works for you, there is no way of guaranteeing it would work for anyone else great job on keeping them so healthy thanks for the comment
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