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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 3, 2009 12:21:07 GMT -5
www.petsmart.com/product/zoom/index.jsp?productId=2754116Satisfy your cichlids' hearty appetites with HBH Cichlid 4 Flake Frenzy. This blend of Meat Lover's, 8 Veggie, Color Bright and Health Booster Flakes will be eagerly accepted by your fish. Four distinct flake foods are blended in perfect proportions to support the health, growth, skeletal development, bright coloration and disease resistance of cichlids. Each enzyme driven formula promotes digestion and absorption of the full spectrum of nutrients offered by this unique blend. Ingredients: Fish meal, wheat flour, gelatinized starch, fish oil, brewer's dried yeast, soy lecithin, fish eggs, krill meal, brine shrimp, spirulina powder, carrot powder, earthworm, pea, powder, spinach powder, beet powder, dehydrated alfalfa meal, garlic powder, romaine lettuce, zucchini powder, squid meal, kale powder, capsicum, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin c), vitamin a acetate, choline chloride, a-tocopheryl acetate (source of vitamin e), niacin, d-calcium,, pantothenate, riboflavin, thiamin, biotin, pyridoxine hcl, folic acid, d-activated animal sterol (source of vitamin d3), vitamin b12 supplement, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, iron proteinate, mono calcium phosphate, red 40, blue 2, yellow 5, ethoxyquin (preservative). Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein (min.) 38%, Crude Fat (min.) 9%, Crude Fiber (max.) 5%, Moisture (max.) 10%.
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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 3, 2009 12:22:36 GMT -5
those 2 are the only 2 choices out of carls list. im thinking the hbh is better for mbuna. but the omega one has more vitamins.
what would be your guys number 1 choice. im now reading the article carl suggested to read.
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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 3, 2009 12:39:08 GMT -5
awesome article carl i think that the omega is the better choice after reading that article because it uses whole fish instead of just fish meal which could be whole fish meal or maybe it isnt.
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Post by jonv on Apr 3, 2009 12:44:48 GMT -5
In addition to the foods that Carl offers, and I would clearly opt to buy the foods Carl does sell, if possible, but I'd also like to mention another manufacturer I buy from, and where I got my Spiralina 20 from. www.Jehmco.com |
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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 3, 2009 13:53:58 GMT -5
thanks jon i already purchased the omega one tho
but i will keep it in mind when i start to run low which happens alot.
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Post by Carl on Apr 3, 2009 16:37:22 GMT -5
thanks jon i already purchased the omega one tho but i will keep it in mind when i start to run low which happens alot. Your welcome!; I would also add Barbara's good points as well. The Omega is an excellent choice. I would still supplement with a spirulina based food (meaning Spirulina is the main ingredient) as well for best results. BTW, the HBH Flakedoes use a whole fish meal, it is just not listed as such, however I believe theirs is a generic vs. the specific of Omega. Carl |
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Post by murdock6701 on Apr 3, 2009 16:39:42 GMT -5
I'm happy you finally got some cichlids - you mentioned a while back that you wanted them, so it must be a good feeling to have them finally - I say good for you! being happy w/ what you have is always good, regardless of species or breed - the neons are a pretty good dither fish for them, but not as fast as say, a zebra danio - they may get chased a bit but the combination of color is beautiful - I have a few neons in w/ mine - anyway, just wanted to add my 2 cents worth - glad you're happy - that's what the HOBBY is all about
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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 3, 2009 18:17:12 GMT -5
ya they get chased alot so does the loach but the way i see it is the loach is lazy anyway its a good work out for him to get outa the way and the biggest benifit is whenever he decides to wedge himself inbetween the heater cord the cichlids will chase him out of it so i dont have to always check in on him make sure he isnt stuck. lmao! anyway neons arent gettin bugged as much as i thaught they would and im suprised the cichlids are grouping together as much as they are but they already have there dominance in the tank its just gonna be tricky for a few more days till i can find a similar sized cave for the other one so they can gain equality and both be happy with there own territory instead of one always invading the other.
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Post by murdock6701 on Apr 3, 2009 19:52:28 GMT -5
if you have 2 males you will always have the aggression for dominance - more hidey holes than fish is important thru my short experience - one may want to dominate the entire tank and ALL the caves - it'll take time to settle things down and it may get better and it may get worse! that's why dither fish act as a distraction for them - all I can say is they are beautiful fish and good luck - make some caves out of rocks - solve the security issue by moving stuff around or adding stuff, even if it doesn't exactly match the "decor" - the key factor is to keep aggression down - again, wish you luck
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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 3, 2009 21:11:39 GMT -5
ya i already planned ahead for that i baught some little kid plastic cups and im planning to use them as caves instead of the pvc pipe until i can get a similar cave or anything better then this.
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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 3, 2009 22:06:57 GMT -5
here are pictures of the caves we just put in the tank and a full picture of what the tank looks like The tank full view all done!  One of the labs goin into the new cave!  The second lab above the second new cave!  the caves where 4 inch by 3 inches, little kid cups we got for a dollar! they seem to work great bc right after we put the cups in there one of the labs already was in there. they are really hard to see though bc they are buried in with the gravel and its sprinkled over the top of the cups to give it more of a cave effect.(james's idea) so tell us what you guys think! lana and james |
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Post by kagome on Apr 3, 2009 23:44:42 GMT -5
Great idea! This way you can move things around and rearrange if you want since it's buried under the gravel and not an on top decor piece. And what really matters is if the fish like it and apparently they do or they wouldn't go in there. Good job!
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Post by brenda on Apr 4, 2009 11:08:20 GMT -5
My fish are all either omnivores or carnivores and I still feed them all a spirulina flake every morning. The other foods I like are the Omega one flake and the HBH supersoft pellets.
Your tank looks nice but beware once those africans get bigger they will eat those neons. You really should move the neons and watch that the dojo is not being stressed by being chased...Fish can die of stress.
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Post by barbara on Apr 4, 2009 12:24:42 GMT -5
My fish are all either omnivores or carnivores and I still feed them all a spirulina flake every morning. The other foods I like are the Omega one flake and the HBH supersoft pellets. Your tank looks nice but beware once those africans get bigger they will eat those neons. You really should move the neons and watch that the dojo is not being stressed by being chased...Fish can die of stress. Brenda is right on with that last statement, fish also can be weakened by stress, and more suspectible to disease. Dojo loaches aren't like some loaches that have defenses, his only defense is to run. |
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Post by murdock6701 on Apr 4, 2009 13:18:59 GMT -5
I have to agree w/ the stress on the dojo and maybe about the neons - they aren't as fast as a zebra danio - before putting fish in a tank, it is pretty imperative that you READ about compatible tank mates, otherwise you end up killing fish - the other fish will do the killing but ultimately the responsibility is up to the keeper to ensure harmony
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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 4, 2009 16:40:19 GMT -5
ya i did do all the research and he doesnt seem that stressed he just goes about hiself to a different area the neons are actually helping to keep the attention off of him.
all the diagrams and graphs and websites ive looked at have all said that they are compatable just to use caution cory cats and loaches that is. but the cory cats were too slow so i moved them at first sign of bad news and they are doing great in the other tank. the neons are fast enough for now to move outa the way and the loach is just too fast for anything to get ahold of him im not too worried about him as i am the neons. but if i didnt have the dither fish in there the loach would be double team'd and it wouldnt work at all but right now the only stressed fish in there are the neons.
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Post by murdock6701 on Apr 4, 2009 18:13:20 GMT -5
zebra danios as mentioned before are fast and on the go 24/7 - they are also very inexpensive and hardy - if nothing else is moving in your tank, they always will be - keep a minimum of 3, 6 is better - they stay small and are ideal as dithers in smaller tanks
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Post by corycatwoman on Apr 4, 2009 22:40:22 GMT -5
alright thanks if i start losing some neons ill look into the zebras thats always good news way to be on the look out!
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