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Post by corycatwoman on Mar 2, 2009 0:48:24 GMT -5
i have found another cichlid species that im looking up information on.
its called the cyno "white top hara" if anyone thinks this might be a good species to start with please let me know more information or more sources to read up on.
Thanks a million
James
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Post by eve on Mar 2, 2009 1:02:13 GMT -5
get's to be about 5 inch in length
very aggressive
and shouldn't be kept in anything less then a 55 IMO
but beautiful never the less though
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Post by corycatwoman on Mar 2, 2009 1:32:15 GMT -5
bum deal. they are great with labs as far as ive read too bad i dont have a bigger tank. we should definately keep this thread up for people with larger tanks that have cichlids id love to see peoples photos if they end up adding them to there tanks.
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Post by jonv on Mar 2, 2009 12:10:19 GMT -5
Most Cynotilapia's as I think that's what the Cyno abbreviation is for, are actually rather aggressive Mbuna types. Cynotilapia Hongi "Zebra Red Top" is one I've been planning on picking up for this summer, and the breeder I've been to their place and talking to, keeps them in a Mbuna only tank, smallest set up he's got is a 75 gallon.
One thing I have cautioned and made notes on before I was internet cut off temporarily is that sexing is the key. Since you are liable to get younger fish, you are less likely to get an accurate sexing. Yellow Labs, the Tangyangikan aspect I brought up, Acei's, all sorts of talk going on here. There really is no one fit perfect answer actually. You are looking for milder stuff I think, but that poor man's Front that was listed in a link before, now this Zebra, it seems like there's too many if's and what about's at this point. In a 28 gallon tank, there really is only one way I think you could ever mix 2 species, and that is if one species, is a solo male, and the other species is all female.
If any attempt to mix with multiple males in that footprint, no matter how well that tank is rocked up, at some point, there is going to be one male that emerges and says, this is my tank. It's just a matter of time. Point to example, in my 180, I had my Flavus group, 2 males and 1 female left after shipping. First year, the two males co-existed just fine both displaying color. After the first year, with no warning at all, one exerted itself over the other, and this is a 6 foot by 2 foot footprint, and that other male shows himself as a female only out of fear. If this can happen in a 180 footprint, it is going to happen in a 28, it's just a matter of time.
So my final suggestion here, while you look at different looks of different fish, you should aim to
1. Buy from someone that knows what they are doing so you don't get mis sexed fish.
2. Avoid anything that is considered to be aggressive or highly aggressive.
3. Be aware of the quality and accuracy of the information you are searching. Sites like cichlid-forum, gcca, nycichlids, these are groups of professional keepers. You still can have some slight varients of information, but clearly, something like liveaquaria, or thatfishplace, something like this, you really do not want to take any type of advice from places like that.
4. Finally, it is critical with that footprint, you do not put in multiple males. I cannot stress enough, you are playing with fire and a ticking time bomb, and I do not care who tries to say differently on whatever site.
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Post by murdock6701 on Mar 2, 2009 12:40:43 GMT -5
very well put Jon - A show tanks looks better w/ live fish than dead ones - aquariums are meant to be peaceful and realxing, not worrisome war zones....
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Post by corycatwoman on Mar 2, 2009 14:01:56 GMT -5
ive been talking to the local fish stores that arent chains and seeing if they can order a specific sex of a fish but they say that it just depends on what comes in and most of them dont know how to sex the fish. so i may end up having to do a trial and error here and get 3 fish and start eliminating the males and take them back. but that ruins the whole entering all of them at the same time which everyone here said was crucial to gaining the right territories.
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Post by murdock6701 on Mar 2, 2009 14:13:55 GMT -5
not a wise move - think how much stress that puts on the fish! they are living creatures and shouldn't be subjected to that - we as keepers take them from the wild to be kept as pets and should respect them for what they are, not an amusing commodity
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Post by jonv on Mar 2, 2009 14:40:57 GMT -5
You don't have to put everyone in at once unless you have multiple males. IF again you stick with 1 male of one species, females only of the other, all this decor stuff, the boundry stuff, doesn't even matter. If they can't sex a fish, you can find someone else that can. You aren't in a hurry anyways you said, so just shop around.
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