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Post by babygeige on Sept 18, 2014 16:26:25 GMT -5
I've had my SAE for 4 or 5 years, I think. He's been in the big tank for a couple of years. The worst thing he does is try to push cories around at dinner time, but they don't really seem too bothered. They just move onto another piece of food, no damage is ever done. The SAE likes to zip around a lot and perch on stuff, which I find cute. I can't really say how they are in a group. It was my intention years ago to get like 4 of them, but ended up with 3 Flying Foxes and one SAE. I returned two of the foxes because they were picking on the smallest fox and the SAE. I kept the small fox because I felt bad for him. Then as they grew, the fox started picking on the SAE to where the SAE wasn't eating properly. Fortunately, this was after I had an established 55 gallon tank, so I was able to relocate the SAE. He's doubled in size since then and looks great. I don't have any snails or shrimp, so I'm not sure how he'd get along with them. This is what I have for SAE tankmates: 7 Colombian tetras, 6 cories, 1 angel, 1 common pleco, 2 adult female kribs, and a bunch of krib teenagers. I know what you mean about ordering online. I haven't gotten the courage to do that yet either, and I definitely don't blame you for not wanting to take that chance on SAE's. Who knows what you'd end up with!
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Post by babygeige on Sept 14, 2014 8:19:08 GMT -5
Thanks for this! What a nice idea!
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Post by babygeige on Sept 14, 2014 8:15:24 GMT -5
That's a shame about the fish. I know it's late in the conversation, but I thought I'd chime in on SAE's vs. Flying Foxes. I have one of each (thanks to a mis-ID by the LFS) and the Flying Fox is more aggressive than the SAE. They were in the same tank for a while, but the fox picked on the SAE so badly that I had to move the SAE to my 55 gallon tank - where he absolutely thrives. The SAE is one of my favorite fish, very active and doesn't really bother any of the other fish in the tank despite being one of the biggest guys in there at 5 inches or so. The Fox doesn't do any damage to the other fish in his tank, which consists of 1 adult male kribensis, a bunch of juvenile kribs (anyone need some?), and a lone Harlequin rasbora. He will chase the adult a little bit, but nothing harmful. But yes, it's important to know the difference. I didn't at the time (and neither did the person at the LFS), but I didn't want to take the fox back, and I do like him - he's fun to watch zip around and gnaw on the plants, but I like the SAE a lot more.
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Post by babygeige on Jul 20, 2014 16:08:49 GMT -5
Nice pics, angelminx! I ended up losing that little black angel. I've only got one angel fish now, Pierre. This post was shortly after I started my big tank. I probably lost 7 angels to some sort of parasite or something and Pierre was the only one to make it!
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Mar 29, 2014 17:46:43 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Mar 29, 2014 17:46:43 GMT -5
Baby krib update! I have what seems like a million fish. Babies in the 10 gallon, babies in the 30 gallon, babies in a 5 gallon. LFS said they take some when they're about an inch long. A bunch of the ones in the 30 gallon and probably a few from the 10 qualify, but I just have no idea when I'll be able to take them down there. I need to make sure that's my first stop, but it's just not working with my schedule at all. :/
Fish dad is back in the 30 gallon - his fins have healed after the beating he took from Fish mom. Fish mom has moved into the 50 gallon with the other female krib. They seem to get along pretty well. I'll occasionally see a little bit of chasing, but there is no damage done and it's not excessive, so I am happy about that at least.
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Post by babygeige on Mar 29, 2014 17:40:46 GMT -5
Looking good! I hope you have better luck with your baby angels than I did when I started my 50 gallon. I think I bought 6 or 8 - they were all sick with what looked like a parasite issue. Only 1 survived, my pretty Pierre. Baby angels are so cute!
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Post by babygeige on Feb 1, 2014 14:56:44 GMT -5
Wow, so sorry to read of all your troubles, missdiane! I hope the surviving fish are holding up well. I would definitely be patient and wait a while before adding new fish. It's a pain sometimes, but overall I'm very glad I got a 5 gallon tank to use as a QT tank for new fish. It doesn't have to be fancy. Just a sponge filter, a heater (if needed in your neck of the woods) and some fake plants/decor for shy or scared fish to hide. I don't even have a proper light for it - I just use a desk lamp.
It's also handy when you've got sick or injured fish.
Good luck! Keep us posted.
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Feb 1, 2014 14:43:45 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Feb 1, 2014 14:43:45 GMT -5
Haha, I know! I can't keep up with these crazy fish. Mr. Fish has come out of hiding and looks a little bit better. However, I think I'm going to play "musical fish." I'm going to put the Harlequin rasbora and Flying Fox back in the 30 gallon, on the side where the older fish kids are living. They're big enough that the Mr. Fox shouldn't give them a hard time. And then I'll put the male krib in the 5 gallon with some medicine so his tail can heal up.
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Post by babygeige on Jan 28, 2014 22:03:26 GMT -5
I don't have any advice to add beyond what knowledgeable and Carl and Devon have shared, but I do hope you will keep us posted on the process of your setup! I love seeing people "works in progress."
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Jan 28, 2014 21:56:45 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Jan 28, 2014 21:56:45 GMT -5
I moved about 13 of the older fish kids from the 30 gallon to my 10 gallon. That still left about 20! Last week I put up a divider, separating the older ones from the parents and new fry. It's split almost half and half.
The fish parents solved the "when should I split them up" question for me. Two days ago I was in the den and I noticed frantic movement on the side with the parents and new fry. Mrs. Fish was attacking Mr. Fish! Like, big time. So I moved the divider enough to let Mr. Fish move out. Poor guy is beat up! His tail is shredded and his color is really washed out. Even 2 days later, he's very afraid and hides quite a lot. It's like he hasn't figured out that he's safe now. He is eating, so I suppose that's one good thing.
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Jan 16, 2014 16:25:09 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Jan 16, 2014 16:25:09 GMT -5
Hi! Sorry it's been so long since I posted. Been super busy lately. Anyway, yes the Flying fox is fine. He and the harlequin rasbora have been living in the 5 gallon tank. It's not ideal for Mr. Fox, but he has recovered very well - so has the rasbora. By the time I was able to move the Fox, the parents had also turned on the rasbora. There's another development to the story. I thought I had a little more time to get the kids out, but mom and dad fish decided to have more kids!!! They hatched yesterday, so they aren't free swimming yet. I imagine I need to move the older kids out before the parents turn on them. I also need to separate the adults! I have no idea what I'm going to do with all these fish! Any suggestions on when would be the best time to separate the parents? Give them a few weeks to raise the babies? Maybe I'll put the female in the 50 with the other female krib and the angel fish. Will the 2 females get along well? Here is an updated video of the older kids: Krib kids
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Post by babygeige on Jan 16, 2014 16:10:01 GMT -5
Hey everyone! Sorry I disappeared for a while.
Just a quick update on the female krib I moved to my 50 gallon that has the angel fish. Everything has been completely fine. The angel barely even registered the addition of a new fish. The krib has settled in quite nicely. Her color improved the day I released her from the net box. I only had her in there overnight. She looked miserable in it and the tank is so tall I don't think the angel fish even noticed it was there.
Yay!
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Dec 1, 2013 17:31:28 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Dec 1, 2013 17:31:28 GMT -5
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Post by babygeige on Nov 30, 2013 16:21:08 GMT -5
Alright, here goes nothing. I think I will move the krib from the 5 gallon to a net box in the 50 gallon. The Flying Fox that's in the 30 looks horrible. The krib parents have been really hard on him while guarding fry, so I'm going to move him to the 5 gallon for now.
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Post by babygeige on Nov 20, 2013 21:21:32 GMT -5
Ok, cool. I'm going to have to try it out at some point. Eventually the krib babies in the 30 gallon will need somewhere else to grow out while I figure out what to do with them, so I'll need the 5 gallon for that.
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Nov 20, 2013 21:19:04 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 20, 2013 21:19:04 GMT -5
Thanks guys! The parents really are very calm, but vigilant. I think my tank is long enough that they don't feel too nervous about the other 3 fish in the tank, since there is probably at least 24 inches separating the fry from the others at all times. But they do keep a close eye out. It's been so interesting watching them take turns guarding the fry while the other roams around checking things out, eating, etc. It's so funny when one of the fry moves too far away from the group. Mom or dad will go and scoop it up, swim back to the group, and spit the baby out to keep everyone together. The parents are probably exhausted keeping up with all those kids!
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Nov 18, 2013 21:33:01 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 18, 2013 21:33:01 GMT -5
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Nov 17, 2013 19:15:34 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 17, 2013 19:15:34 GMT -5
There are only 3 other fish in the tank right now: 2 harlequin rasboras and one flying fox. The parents have been doing a good job keeping them corralled in right side of the tank, while the family is mostly toward the left. It's Fortunately it's a long 30 gallon tank, so there's 3 feet real estate. The outsiders have been confined to about 8 inches. I've been crushing up Aqueon tropical flakes as well as Spirulina flakes and adding it in near the fry with a medicine dropper. I don't want to disturb them too much, but I also want to make sure the water stays clean with all this crushed up food I'm adding. I know I can't do a thorough gravel cleaning, but I think if I just do several smaller water changes throughout the week, they should be fine. I'll just make sure to stay very far away from the fry.
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Nov 16, 2013 21:58:58 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 16, 2013 21:58:58 GMT -5
Update: Mom and dad seem to be doing a nice job so far. I figured out why they were hanging out near the filter intake. I have a little batch of java fern back there, so the kiddies are snacking on the food and plant bits on the roots. The parents move the fry around quite a bit. It's really interesting to watch them!
I didn't have any spare pre-filter parts, so I took the pre-filter out of my 10 gallon and put it in the 30. Hopefully it'll help keep the fry safe. Figures that this would pop up AFTER I placed an American Aquarium Product order (btw, thanks for the super fast shipping AAP guys!).
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Nov 16, 2013 17:37:04 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 16, 2013 17:37:04 GMT -5
My kribensis pair had babies!! I don't know why, really, but I'm completely surprised by this. The only animals I've had reproduce before were shrimp and I just kind of left them to it. Do you think I need to do anything with these babies, or will mom and dad take care of them for a while? I don't have any baby fish food or anything! I can crush up some flakes for them. I noticed them all bunched up under the filter intake!!! So I unplugged my filter and the parents moved them away a little distance, but I don't know how far away they should be. I wonder if I have enough stuff for a sponge prefilter... I have no idea what I'm doing!! The babies are so cute though!
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