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Post by cashay on Jan 16, 2009 10:05:09 GMT -5
One of my gold skirts has some kind of growth under his fin, and was wondering if anyone knew.. is there a way to get rid of it? I noticed it has gotten bigger in a few weeks time, when i first saw it ,It wasn't to noticeable but it has gotten bigger, he/she seems fine, is swimming around fine, but I can tell because of it , the fin sticks out, and Im afraid if it keeps growing the poor thing won't be able to move it, and will start swimming in circles, since only one will be working. I do have a picture but i couldn't really get a good close up, I will try another when I get home. I will also have to wait until I get home to put this picture up.
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Post by goldenpuon on Jan 16, 2009 11:28:07 GMT -5
A picture would be helpful. I am thinking of a tumor of some sort but I'd need a picture to be sure. Actually, one of my fish has a similar thing although it is mild and not getting bigger really. She is a betta I bred. She has some sort of growth around one of her fins (pectoral or pelvic, I forgot which is which) but she swims fine ( I keep a close eye on her). It does sort of look like she is trying to grow a leg though. lol Good luck with your fish! Hope the growth clears up!
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Post by cashay on Jan 16, 2009 12:27:21 GMT -5
Here are two pictures but when I get home this evening will try and get a better one close up, Does anyone know If melafix will help? or MB  |
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Post by cashay on Jan 16, 2009 12:28:03 GMT -5
 see it near his gill, the fins is almost straight out now because of it, again like i said I will try and get a better one later |
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Post by babygeige on Jan 16, 2009 14:24:05 GMT -5
Poor guy!
Do fish get skin tags? That's what the picture kind of reminds me of.
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Post by cashay on Jan 16, 2009 15:44:27 GMT -5
hmmm I dont know if they could get them or not???  I hope it doesn't get much bigger on him, I'd hate to see the little guy swimming in circles because only one of his side( what ever they are called) fins are working. |
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Post by goldenpuon on Jan 16, 2009 17:25:18 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm having a hard time seeing it. Is there any way to zoom in on the picture?
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Post by Carl on Jan 16, 2009 18:57:12 GMT -5
I cannot really tell much from the picture. If you can get a close up (I know easier said than done), when I get back into town on Sunday (I am only on a borrowed computer right now in LA) I can take a look at it, maybe bikeguy or others may have an opinion as well. Based on your description, I doubt that Melafix would help since it primarily is for injuries. torn fins, etc. (unless this is an injury), as Melafix does not have strong antibacterial properties for true infections. Methylene Blue directly on this spot as well as in a bath, possibly with salt too may help, depending on the cause. If this growth is cauliflower like, this may be Lymphosystis which is VERY common in Skirt tetras and is actually a viral infection that basically a clean tank, and a healthy fish immune system will take care of, although Usnea has shown promise here. If this is the problem, do not stress much, as this is rarely fatal (the biggest danger is from secondary infections), and as I noted, just good care, feeding (foods like Spirulina 20 that boosts the immune system help greatly), etc help much here. I do mention Lymphosistis here (in the Usnea section): Organic Treatments, Usnea, LymphosistisCarl |
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Post by bikeguy33 on Jan 17, 2009 0:44:17 GMT -5
i have seen many tumors like this, but they have always been in badly bred goldfish.....often right on the eyeball. if this is the case....there isnt much you can do, but they always seemed to live healthy long happy lives....i will probably have a better opinion when i see a pic a lil closer....
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Post by cashay on Jan 17, 2009 16:30:24 GMT -5
 I cant seem to get any closer, I also noticed it doesn't look like it is on his skin at all, that it is in his fin?  ? |
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Post by cashay on Jan 17, 2009 16:31:16 GMT -5
 Sorry I cant get any better, |
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Post by goldenpuon on Jan 17, 2009 17:25:44 GMT -5
I'm still having difficult seeing it. Sorry about that. Is the growth white? I'm thinking it may be just a small tumor. one of my bettas has that but is still very happy and healthy. Is there any other unusual behavior or spots? It could be a fungus or parasite of some sort but if it is, you should see it spreading and more appearing on the fish. From the picture I'm afraid I can't tell. From what you've said though, it looks like it's probably nothing to worry about, since you haven't mentioned it spreading to any other fish or appearing on other parts of the fish's body.
Good luck!
Renee
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Post by Carl on Jan 18, 2009 10:57:19 GMT -5
The picture in the 10th post gave me a good angle. This is NOT Lymphocystis as I thought it might be (in part because this is common in Skirt Tetras). Bill is likely correct, this appears to be a tumor or similar (Lymphocystis is more cauliflower like and generally near the tips of fins) As well as Bill (bikeguy) stated, there is not much you can do but keep good water conditions, although Usnea has shown anti tumor resistance in lab tests (not verified in field studies). This might be best in a bath with MB rather than adding meds to your tank for a questionably treatable problem that as bikeguy noted may not hardm the fish for a long time. Carl |
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Post by cashay on Jan 19, 2009 8:42:43 GMT -5
will this keep getting bigger?
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Post by Carl on Jan 19, 2009 10:09:46 GMT -5
will this keep getting bigger? Unfortunately the answer is maybe. Carl |
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Post by cashay on Feb 2, 2009 11:30:22 GMT -5
Ok after watching my gold skirt for while, the growth looks like it is going away, It is still there but it seems to be getting smaller? ? Which is good thing! but I didn't treat it with anything sooooo why would it be going away? that means it was something,.... and now wondering what the heck it was or is. On another note: still no babie's from the dalmation mollie, getting bigger though. Had to take one of the Mollies out and put him by himself. Mean little buger! kept going after the other fish, nipping at them chasing them all over the tank. mean I tell ya, when all others seem to be laid back. he kinda got the name buster! lol with all the talking to him saying ok look here buster you keep attacking the fish you will be put up, well he didnt stop so now he is alone, and with a new name.. ha-ha He will be ok with being by himself wont he? Are they schooling fish also? I dont notice them hanging together like my tetra's, |
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Post by kagome on Feb 2, 2009 11:36:11 GMT -5
It's weird, even among the most peaceful species of fish you will sometimes get an aggressive individual who decides to become homicidal.
I don't know if it's necessarily the best way to keep them but I have seen lots of people keep single mollies so I think he will be ok.
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Post by Carl on Feb 2, 2009 11:41:20 GMT -5
This was likely viral or similar in origin.
I originally mentioned Lymphosystis, which is viral, but a later picture showed this was not the case. however this does not rule out other similar viral "tumors" that will often go away by natural immune response by the fish in a healthy environment.
I am not positive to your second question, but the part I think I read correctly was to schooling; in my expereince Mollies are NOT schooling fish and I have many single mollies without a problem
Carl
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Post by eve on Feb 2, 2009 12:28:58 GMT -5
mollies are definitely not schooling fish
however, they should be kept in a 1 male and 2-3 female ratio, for exactly that reason
one male will harass a single female to the death if you don't watch it
however if you have 2 or more females to 1 male, the male will spread it's aggression i wouldn't call it, but it's will to mate to all of them and not just one single one
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Post by cashay on Feb 2, 2009 12:33:50 GMT -5
HE DOESNT SEEM TO BE IN ANY STRESS OR ANYTHING, ACTUALLY THIS IS THE CALMEST I HAVE SEEN HIM, HE MUST BE POUTING...
LOL MAYBE I WILL KEEP HIM IN TIME-OUT FOR ANOTHER DAY OR SO. AND SEE IF HE LEARNS TO BEHAVE HIMSELF,
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I hope it doesn't get much bigger on him, I'd hate to see the little guy swimming in circles because only one of his side( what ever they are called) fins are working.
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