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Post by Carl on Jan 27, 2016 17:05:07 GMT -5
These FSB filters (especially the models 1000 & 1500) can out perform ANY canister filter when it comes to bio filtration, including the pricey and large Eheim and Fluval Pro models. However these FSB filters work best with some sort of pre-filtration running ahead of it whether it be an existing canister filter (best) or power head with a sponge filter attachment. More FSB Filter info: www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Filtration.html#fluidizedaap.atrixnet.com/?p=375I have had issues with most outside pump/inline pumps, so if you would not like a submersible pump to run a FSB filter, I would suggest using a canister filter. In line heaters have been an even worse problem for me, I even made my own for a few years in attempt to get one that would work correctly in regulating temps and not burn out the heater. In the end I have gone back to heater in tank or in a sump (although in-sump has it won problems should the sump pumps fail, you also loose your heat). I have a section about in-line heater in this article about "Aquarium Heaters" www.aquarium-pond-answers.com/2007/01/aquarium-heaters-preset-vs-non-preset.htmlCarl
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Post by childofiam on Jan 28, 2016 19:14:50 GMT -5
I hooked up my new V2Pure 50 Advanced RO System with in-Line TDS Meter and am making Ro H2O. I will dispose of the first 2-3 gallons it makes tonight. At the current rate I am getting about 1 GPH Testing on the RO I have received at this point; KH = 1 GH = 0 Richard Well.... I had the drain line open Thats why it was flowing so slow. With it closed it is making a lot more.... Richard
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Jan 29, 2016 11:54:39 GMT -5
Where you depending your waste? Toilet? I always thought the washing machine was a good choice.
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Post by childofiam on Jan 29, 2016 12:47:17 GMT -5
I have a line that goes to my pond with my house hold RO unit but when the line freezes up in the winter it overflows into the sewage. There is too much wastage for the toilet. I lose three gallons for every gallon I make and the Household RO unit is getting old (15 years) so I am thinking about a new unit for the house. The main cartridge is coming up on replacement and it is 350.00 for a replacement. Also, how long does a 1/4 of a large Wonder Shell take to remineralize a five gallon jug of RO water with Sachem Acid & Alkaline buffers added? My target water perimeters are: GH 120 PPM PH 7.4 Ca2 100 PPM
Richard
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Jan 29, 2016 18:04:38 GMT -5
I have a line that goes to my pond with my house hold RO unit but when the line freezes up in the winter it overflows into the sewage. There is too much wastage for the toilet. I lose three gallons for every gallon I make and the Household RO unit is getting old (15 years) so I am thinking about a new unit for the house. The main cartridge is coming up on replacement and it is 350.00 for a replacement. Also, how long does a 1/4 of a large Wonder Shell take to remineralize a five gallon jug of RO water with Sachem Acid & Alkaline buffers added? My target water perimeters are: GH 120 PPM PH 7.4 Ca2 100 PPM Richard Sounds like the washing machine is a good option. The wonder shell starts mineralizing right away. I've never measured how long it took to affect GH then stabilize out, but I would say, you would see it within 24 hours for sure. Maybe even sooner.
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Post by Carl on Jan 29, 2016 18:28:56 GMT -5
Sounds like the washing machine is a good option. The wonder shell starts mineralizing right away. I've never measured how long it took to affect GH then stabilize out, but I would say, you would see it within 24 hours for sure. Maybe even sooner. I agree with Devon, but I honestly never measured the time. My preferred method was to start with the SeaChem Replenish for "Instant" mineralization then add a wonder shell or fragment there off for continuing replenishment. But this also depends upon how you intend to use your RO too. If only part of a blend with tap or well water, then the Wonder Shel and buffers are all you need Resource: www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Seachem.html#replenishCarl
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Post by childofiam on Feb 2, 2016 13:05:24 GMT -5
I have had the Aquagro 600 lights installed on the 75 gallon now for 8 days. Also the Vecton 200 has been up and running a few days more. The water is crystal clear and the biggest improvement is with the fish. Their colors have become sharper and more intense like my pepper cory's never had the blueish green tinge in their armor. My Tiger's black stripes are a deep black now. When they are stressed their black stripes lighten up to a washed out look so this tells me that they have been under stress for a long time. Plant growth has exploded with the Lily's. They have sent leaves to the surface like never before. I ordered the Aquagro 600 double and will replace the single Aquagro 600 over the Lily's with the hope that they will send blooms to the surface. The abundance of leaf cover will give me the low light I need for the Anubis & Java fern collection below. I am setting up another tank and at first it was to make water for the 75 but instead I have decided to go ahead with another planted tank. I will use this for a breeding tank to increase my Tiger herd and Cory's. When my FSB filter arrives it will be inline after my SunSun Canister filter and before the Vecton 200. So the new tank will have a single Aquagro 600 light and be filtered by the Fuval 406. I will also need a Vecton 200 and another FSB as well as a good tank stand. The RO unit has been up and going and I am working on my ratio of Tap to RO. In the summer time our water becomes bad because of all the treatments they do so I have a few months to learn how to make my tank water with 100% RO. Carls articles are my only source of Info because you can't stay in business as long as he has and not know what your talking about... thus, I trust what he says. My Anubis and Java ferns have improved a great deal too. Still working on fert levels sweet spot. Nothing happens over night with Anubis or Java Ferns and they require a lot of patience but I am getting 1 leaf per week now and one of my Anubis Nana has split with 4 different directional rezones and each one of those has 2 leafs now. Richard
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Post by kagome on Feb 2, 2016 14:13:20 GMT -5
Richard,
Your mystery lily looks like a Red Tiger Lotus (Nyphaea zenkeri) like I have in with my Green Sevrum. There is also a green variety of this species. Get ready for the fastest growing plant you've ever seen!
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Post by childofiam on Feb 2, 2016 15:48:41 GMT -5
Richard, Your mystery lily looks like a Red Tiger Lotus (Nyphaea zenkeri) like I have in with my Green Sevrum. There is also a green variety of this species. Get ready for the fastest growing plant you've ever seen! When I bought them, they were bulbs and the package just said Lily bulb... but I hadn't seen Lily's like these before. Will the Red Tiger Lotus bloom in a fish tank under high light? Richard
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Post by coco on Feb 2, 2016 16:34:43 GMT -5
I would agree with Kagome on that lilly. I have one in my 55 gallon. I got it from Aqauriumplants.com. I believe it does bloom flowers, although I trim off the shoots before it hits the surface to keep the growth under water. Of course, I have also seen a website that compared a real "Tiger Lotus" to a knock off, and mine looked more like the "knock off" I thought, but that is what Aquariumplants.com sent me.
-Nicole.
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Feb 2, 2016 17:19:55 GMT -5
Everything is looking so good. I'm glad to hear the positive experiences!
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Post by childofiam on Feb 3, 2016 10:36:47 GMT -5
I would agree with Kagome on that lilly. I have one in my 55 gallon. I got it from Aqauriumplants.com. I believe it does bloom flowers, although I trim off the shoots before it hits the surface to keep the growth under water. Of course, I have also seen a website that compared a real "Tiger Lotus" to a knock off, and mine looked more like the "knock off" I thought, but that is what Aquariumplants.com sent me. -Nicole. It has become hard to believe anything these pet corporations tell us about our purchases. The general public will believe anything they are told without question because they assume what they are being told by someone who works for a big corporations is a professional. I have fallen for this too many times... like the Julli I paid big bucks for... turn out to be Trilineatus instead when they grow up. Richard
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Post by childofiam on Feb 5, 2016 13:18:36 GMT -5
I received my FSB filter to day and installed it behind my dual filters and before my Vecton UV. I had to choke down the flow to stay below the max line but as the bacteria begins to grow on the sand I will be able to increase the flow back to normal. This make my setup look real nice and my closed environment will become a healthier one. Richard
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Feb 5, 2016 17:58:52 GMT -5
I received my FSB filter to day and installed it behind my dual filters and before my Vecton UV. I had to choke down the flow to stay below the max line but as the bacteria begins to grow on the sand I will be able to increase the flow back to normal. This make my setup look real nice and my closed environment will become a healthier one. View AttachmentRichard That's a clean install! Seriously. You did good. I'm glad there's no issue with the sand filter!
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Post by childofiam on Feb 6, 2016 10:49:58 GMT -5
I received my FSB filter to day and installed it behind my dual filters and before my Vecton UV. I had to choke down the flow to stay below the max line but as the bacteria begins to grow on the sand I will be able to increase the flow back to normal. This make my setup look real nice and my closed environment will become a healthier one. Richard That's a clean install! Seriously. You did good. I'm glad there's no issue with the sand filter! When I get my last order... "the rail and suspension kit", I will get the new lights hung. I am reconsidering the the plumbing of the FSB, the 90 deg slowed my GPH considerably... I was also considering a upgrade on my canister filter to one really good one... any suggestions? Richard
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Feb 6, 2016 12:34:32 GMT -5
That's a clean install! Seriously. You did good. I'm glad there's no issue with the sand filter! When I get my last order... "the rail and suspension kit", I will get the new lights hung. I am reconsidering the the plumbing of the FSB, the 90 deg slowed my GPH considerably... I was also considering a upgrade on my canister filter to one really good one... any suggestions? Richard All canister will lose about 60% flow due to head pressure from the media. That the first thing, but if the sand filter is fluidizing the flow is not a problem. You could measure the flow on the outside side to know for sure and have an idea of what level of sterilization your getting. The best canister would be the largest SunSun for flow and head pressure. The Rena's have higher flow rates, but can't handle as much head pressure. I wonder if you need to upgrade, if you're getting any decent flow gph.
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Post by Carl on Feb 7, 2016 11:39:54 GMT -5
When I get my last order... "the rail and suspension kit", I will get the new lights hung. I am reconsidering the the plumbing of the FSB, the 90 deg slowed my GPH considerably... I was also considering a upgrade on my canister filter to one really good one... any suggestions? Richard All canister will lose about 60% flow due to head pressure from the media. That the first thing, but if the sand filter is fluidizing the flow is not a problem. You could measure the flow on the outside side to know for sure and have an idea of what level of sterilization your getting. The best canister would be the largest SunSun for flow and head pressure. The Rena's have higher flow rates, but can't handle as much head pressure. I wonder if you need to upgrade, if you're getting any decent flow gph. The Rena/API Filstar filters are well designed, with about the lowest "flow by" of any canister filter, making these very efficient. However as noted by Devon, these do not have as good of head pressure. From Aquarium Filtration; Canister Filters: "Flow By; this is the efficiency of a given filter to trap particulates of a given size without the water going around the media. I have determined this by measuring a micron filter insert, sponge or other Media’s debris collection after a given time"Reference: www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Filtration.htmlWhile AAP doe not sell the Ehiem, I would be remiss to not mention these too. As these also are a well made canister filter. The Classic series are on par with the Filstar IMO. I do not as much care for the larger 2262 & 2080 models as I feel an aquarium keeper is MUCH better off purchasing a decent standard canister filter such as the SunSun, Filstar or Eheim run with a FSB filter (ditto the Fluval FX5 and FX6). Such a combination has much more bio capacity and is still a lot less expensive Carl
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Post by childofiam on Feb 8, 2016 13:08:25 GMT -5
I removed the Fuval filter and left the SunSun 304 filter hooked up. It still contains Foam filter top to bottom. This was the main bio part of the dual canisters so it will seed the FSB really nice. I took out all the 90 degree turns thus increasing my GPH but they only bring the sand to the min line. I have not tested my GPH yet but will be doing that soon. I will install the anti-back flow valve behind the tank before the exit spout. There is a shut off valve back there also so I will put the anti-back flow valve above it.The shut off valve is there so when I need to change the UV Bulb I can isolate the Vecton 200 without getting too much air in the lines. The sand will get heaver as the bacteria grows on the sand particles and so will fall lower in the FSB filter... thus I might need a bigger SunSun. I would rather have too much GPH then not enough. I can control the flow on the out put side valve to get the flow I need. Am I on the right track? Richard PS This SunSun came from Amazon a year ago so I question the quality compared to you modified one....
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Post by Carl on Feb 8, 2016 16:42:41 GMT -5
Honestly Richard the minimum line is somewhat arbitrary in my opinion, and especially with this larger model FSB filter, you are doing perfect IMO.
As for the SunSun Filter, the impeller and motor is not where they cut corners on Amazon, so in other words this is as good a unit from this perspective as you would have gotten from AAP (the UV lamp, filter media, and connections is where Amazon/eBay sellers cut corners)
Carl
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Feb 8, 2016 17:58:47 GMT -5
Ya, that's a good looking fluidizing filter. You had extra flow before the modifications, I wonder what happen. With that model, you would be getting like double the amount of the filtration then the 600... On the right track to me.
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