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Post by angelminx on Sept 1, 2014 2:06:24 GMT -5
When I was checking out my fish this evening I noticed that my Ram's right eye is affected with popeye. I didn't see this yesterday, and everytime I saw him earlier today, his left side was facing me. His eye looks white around the edges; in the photos it looks like fungus because they are out of focus, but in person, it looks more like he is wearing a goggle over that eye (besides being "swollen"). The eye itself does not look opaque. I took some photos before giving him a bath, and some during the bath--1 qt tank water with 1/2 tsp aquarium salt dissolved in it, 6 drops of Methylene Blue and 1 Tbsp Usnea tea, as per Carl's directions. I looked over the 2 articles that mentioned popeye, and would like some advice as to how I should treat him, since I am unclear as to what the actual problem is. If I do an in-tank treatment in the 55G, it must be safe for plants and inverts. I don't know if that tank should be treated or not. I'll go ahead with the MB/Usnea baths until I hear otherwise. I'm going to try to upload some photos from Photobucket, but since this is the 1st time I've done it, I don't know how it will work. I've tried for over an hour, and I can't get the picture to post. The instructions (in Photobucket Support, for ProBoards) say to paste the img. code into the BBCode, but when ever I click on BBCode, the background just turns blue. I've also clicked on the little picture icon in the tool bar, which brings down an "insert image" box, and I've tried to enter the code in there, and then click on "insert image", and nothing happens; the box just goes away. The instructions also say "you can select preview to view how the image will display in your post. Again, nothing. This is getting very aggravating--I'm not that stupid, am I? It seems like whenever I try something new (that no one else has problems with), all I have is problems. I've spent most of the day working on uploading more pictures, and then this evening trying to figure out how to post them. Also, somehow while I was trying to do all this, the "caption" I had entered for the picture got inserted at the beginning of the post, but, of course, no photo, or link to it. URL-http://s46.photobucket.com c12-Zpsf95a057c.jpg
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Post by angelminx on Sept 1, 2014 3:00:33 GMT -5
Well, I clicked on the "C" in the tool bar and got a prompt to "insert code here" (not sure if I got it right, because I couldn't read my own writing) and the "code" showed up this time, but I'm still not sure how to get the photo to display.
I've HAD it for now, so I'll just have to come back tomorrow.
I hope you can figure out Rameses' problem just by the little bit of description I was able to give. I can't think of what caused the problem, because I have been using the Quick Vac every other day, and just did a water change a couple of weeks ago; I've got the Vecton running (and also have the GroBeams now); and as soon as the weather cooperates (I have to go outside to rinse the Flourite sand before adding it to the tank for the last of the change-outs; the black gravel is ready to go though). I also am using the Wonder Shells--GH was 23 degrees when I tested on Friday. The pH has been running between 7.4 and 7.6; the KH: between 3.5 and 4.5 degrees; Ammonia and Nitrite: 0; and Nitrate: 15ppm. Besides the popeye with his right eye, he looks fine, and is just as active as ever. He seems to be eating fine, at least this morning; this evening he came rushing up for food along with everyone else, but I didn't notice whether he ate anything that time or not. I haven't noticed any problems with anyone else.
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Post by Carl on Sept 1, 2014 10:00:48 GMT -5
For photobucket, you simply need to past the code via "Control V" on your computer form the photobucket links given with your uploaded pictures. You would use the forth one down (img) on the screen shot I took from photobucket Using the edit button on your post here, I can see this is not the code you used. Back to Rameses' problem, there are many causes of pop eye, from an Aeromonus infection, weak/old fish, injury, water parameters or reactions chemistry/chemicals. Here are the steps I recommend for treatment of true pop eye infections, not necessarily injuries or causes from water chemistry From Aquarium Answers; Dropsy Change water! (25% should be fine)
Perform a medicated bath with Methylene Blue and Kanacyn. To prepare this bath I use 1 teaspoon 2.303% solution per 5 gallons (double dose) in a bath of aquarium water from the tank the fish you wish to treat came from, I usually use about a ½ gallon of water, however you may use less. Measurement of the Methylene Blue does not need to be precise as this bath should be used for about 30 minutes. Make sure you keep the water in a warm area, as in a cold room the water temperature can drop rapidly which would stress the fish. As to the Kanacyn, I generally have used twice to four times the recommended in tank strength in these baths of Kanamycin.
I STRONGLY recommend the use of salts in this bath as well at about double the normally used tank strength; 1-2 teaspoons sodium chloride (regular salt) per gallon and 1/8 to ¼ teaspoon Epsom salt per gallon of bath water.
Do NOT pour this water back into your display aquarium when finished! This can be performed twice per day.
For further information (more in depth) about fish baths, please read this article: Fish Baths/Dips for supplemental (& even primary) treatment of Bacterial infections
Add one tablespoon of regular salt (sodium chloride) per 5 gallons of aquarium/tank water. Add a Wonder Shell or similar product to add needed calcium and mineral cations. What these minerals will do is add electrolytes and change (and improve) the osmotic balance of the fish vs. the surrounding water to hopefully pull fluids thru the body thus reducing swelling.
For more about electrolytes, please read this article: Aquarium Chemistry; Why calcium and electrolytes are important
Treat tank water with Kanamycin (Kanaplex), or possibly with Neomycin or Nalidixic Acid. Also consider feeding the infected fish with fish food soaked in Neomycin such as Neoplex along with in tank treatment of Kanamycin (hospital tank is best). Other treatments of note are Minocycline (Maracyn II) and Metronidazole (SeaChem makes an excellent pure Metronidazole).
Sometimes a “cocktail” approach with more than one medication is necessary for Dropsy, such as Kanacyn and Metronidazole or Neomycin together (and this still includes the baths!!). Please note that combining Metronidazole with Neomycin does not improve results, so this "cocktail" combination should ONLY be with Kanamyacin with EITHER Neomycin or Metronidazole!
Reference: www.aquarium-pond-answers.com/2006/11/betta-with-dropsy.htmlHave you added anything unusual to this tank in the last few weeks? Carl
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Post by angelminx on Sept 1, 2014 14:37:21 GMT -5
Nothing added to tank except Flourish plant supplements.BTW, he is eating just fine--as eager as ever Still nothing. I'm not sure how to "paste". I tried the "Control V" in a few different places, and nothing ever happened. And I tried to type the code in manually after clicking on both the photo icon, and the "C" icon, clicking on "insert" just inserted "trying again" at the front of the the post. Also, when it shows the IMG code in the box it only shows part of the code, how do I get it to reveal the whole thing? I wrote down some of the info last night when it somehow showed up, but the letter in front of "057" I can't tell if I wrote "a" or "c", and after "057" I think it's a "c" (?capital/lower case), but it might be a "6", which is then followed by ".jpg". When I bring up the album I'm choosing the photo from, to the right of the photos is the "share links" list, and on my monitor, I just lists "Email and IM"; HTML Embed"; "Flash Embed"; and "Slideshow". Until I click on the photo I want in the album, then the one you showed appears to the right side of the enlarged photo. While I'm trying to figure this out (I never thought to ask), do I start out from the thread I want to post on and then bring up Photobucket, or do I start out in Photobucket and the bring up EA and the thread I want to post on? If I can ever get this to work, you'll be able to see Rameses for yourself. I've never seen this cap/goggle over the eye when I ever had a case of popeye before (and that was over 15 years ago at least, probably A LOT more--I don't really remember having a case since before I moved to Illinois) or in any book that talks about popeye. [Looks like you sometimes have problems with multiple postings, too. I still have problems with clicking on a place where I need to change something and having a whole section of text disappear on me and having to try to remember what I'd written--don't know how to bring it back.]
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Post by Carl on Sept 2, 2014 9:43:16 GMT -5
You can also right click on your mouse and simply then click on paste which comes up in a box.
Typing a picture url can easily result in mistakes, even a space will make the entire picture fail.
As far as the triple post I made, it was due to ProBoards being down at the time and getting an error message; I simply kept attempting to post until ProBoards was working again and apparently each attempt was saved and added. Not a common problem, as usually ProBoards has good functionality
Carl
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Post by parker002 on Sept 3, 2014 6:58:00 GMT -5
Is this your photo?
I just went to your album on Photobucket and it says it doesn't exist. Can you start by just copying and pasting the direct link into a post here?
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Post by angelminx on Sept 4, 2014 16:32:25 GMT -5
Rameses was kind of listless this morning (he was always very energetic and interested in everything ),and while I was giving him his bath he seemed okay. I hadn't feed him yet, but he was eating fine last night. I put him back into the breeder net and took my Betta out, (in his tank water, in a different specimen container) to get some pictures. When I was through I noticed that Rameses was laying on his side in the bottom of the net. I checked and he was dead . I removed him and laid him on a paper towel to get a couple of pics of him, too. As I mentioned in the thread on Betta Fins, I haven't been able to get the pictures loaded onto the computer so that I could upload them to Photobucket .
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Post by angelminx on Sept 4, 2014 16:42:49 GMT -5
Parker, when I "log in" to Photobucket my pics come right up--the setting is "public", too. I have, I think, 9 different albums, plus some photos I haven't assigned yet, and ones I'm trying to upload so I can.
If you mean using the "attachments" to insert a photo direct from my computer, I've tried that, and the picture is too small to see any details (I also have to make smaller copies on my camera, and upload them too, or the {?}forum won't accept them because they are "too" big). That's why I'm trying to figure out this Photobucket thing. I'm also trying to figure out "cut and paste" because I've never done it before (and I'm kind of dense when it comes to technical stuff).
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Sept 4, 2014 18:09:02 GMT -5
Rameses was kind of listless this morning (he was always very energetic and interested in everything ),and while I was giving him his bath he seemed okay. I hadn't feed him yet, but he was eating fine last night. I put him back into the breeder net and took my Betta out, (in his tank water, in a different specimen container) to get some pictures. When I was through I noticed that Rameses was laying on his side in the bottom of the net. I checked and he was dead . I removed him and laid him on a paper towel to get a couple of pics of him, too. As I mentioned in the thread on Betta Fins, I haven't been able to get the pictures loaded onto the computer so that I could upload them to Photobucket .
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Post by Carl on Sept 4, 2014 18:37:49 GMT -5
Sorry to read about Rameses Carl
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 22:43:04 GMT -5
Rameses was kind of listless this morning (he was always very energetic and interested in everything ),and while I was giving him his bath he seemed okay. I hadn't feed him yet, but he was eating fine last night. I put him back into the breeder net and took my Betta out, (in his tank water, in a different specimen container) to get some pictures. When I was through I noticed that Rameses was laying on his side in the bottom of the net. I checked and he was dead . I removed him and laid him on a paper towel to get a couple of pics of him, too. As I mentioned in the thread on Betta Fins, I haven't been able to get the pictures loaded onto the computer so that I could upload them to Photobucket .
Sorry to hear, angelminx. i believe the photo discussion you mean is in FW/Labrynth/NewBetta. I've left you notes re image sizes but did not realize you're having trouble uploading. I have a Mac so I connect with a USB cable and automatically iPhoto opens and my images load there. Not familiar with pc's but I thought it was the same but with a different photo program.
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Post by angelminx on Sept 5, 2014 1:41:12 GMT -5
I finally got the new pics to upload to my computer a little while ago. I also made copies of the middle-size images on the camera and uploaded them at the same time. I'll try to use the attachment on the site about Betta Fins and see what happens.
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Post by angelminx on Sept 5, 2014 2:22:22 GMT -5
I was able to get larger pix to upload, but they're still not very big. I'll add some on this thread tomorrow (since it's so late) so you can at least see something until I get these uploaded to Photobucket, and figure out how to transfer those images.
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Post by angelminx on Sept 5, 2014 16:04:30 GMT -5
Here are some pics of Rameses. Since I can only upload 3 per post, I'll do multiple posts. BTW, how may pix can you download from Photobucket to EA at one time? These 2 are from before popeye. This is a pic of him in the specimen container before I put in the medication.
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Post by angelminx on Sept 5, 2014 16:07:33 GMT -5
Some more from before treatment began. (this is the best shot I could get from above)
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Post by angelminx on Sept 5, 2014 16:18:45 GMT -5
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Post by angelminx on Sept 5, 2014 16:23:11 GMT -5
One more photo while in treatment: In these 2 I placed him on a white paper towel: You can sort of see the "goggle" in these pics; in the second one it's peeking out from under him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2014 16:32:18 GMT -5
Some more from before treatment began. (this is the best shot I could get from above) Congrats on getting the pics rolling, good job! No doubt about popeye, is there... So disheartening to lose a nice fish and he was lovely, for sure.
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Post by devonjohnsgard on Sept 5, 2014 17:18:18 GMT -5
BTW, how may pix can you download from Photobucket to EA at one time? A lot. And so you know. Pop Eye is a symptom of something else, just like fin rot. So you wouldn't have been treating for pop eye, but some type of infection causing the pop eye and whatever else. Looks like Carl touched on this a little. www.americanaquariumproducts.com/vibrio_aeromonas.html#pop_eye
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Post by angelminx on Sept 5, 2014 23:54:38 GMT -5
I never did figure out what caused the popeye.
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