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Post by parker002 on Oct 9, 2014 12:37:37 GMT -5
The instructions say:
Dose 1mL per 10.5G the first day. Wait 48 hours , then repeat. In freshwater, use half dose.
I'm not sure if I should use half the bottle the first day and then the other half 2nd. Or if I should use half the bottle and then 1/4. Or use 1/4 both times.
I'm afraid removing sludge is going to be a big problem unfortunately. I just don't have the means, other than making sure the filters are clean before adding.
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Post by Carl on Oct 9, 2014 12:42:57 GMT -5
Basically this bottle represent two 1/2 doses for freshwater to be added 48 hours apart. Keep in mind that an average pond is going to absorb more of this than an average aquarium Cleaning the filters of any mulm/sludge is better than nothing Even a partial water change will lower DOC in the water column Carl
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Post by parker002 on Oct 9, 2014 13:15:16 GMT -5
How long should I let it sit before running carbon and treating again? Or should I let it sit all winter and then do it all again in the spring?
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Post by Carl on Oct 9, 2014 13:36:14 GMT -5
I would leave it in another 48 hours then consider a water change, however with Cupramine in a pond I have often left it in and it degrade relatively quickly
Carl
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Post by parker002 on Jul 4, 2015 14:08:40 GMT -5
Sorry to dredge up an old thread again but I'm still struggling with invertebrates in my pond, whether it be larva, leeches, nematodes, and even snails. I'd like to find something that would just kill them all. The Cupramine would be fine except my organics are too high and it's just not effective enough. Cleaning the pond much more than I have is not something I'm interested in doing.
I looked at PraziPro but it doesn't appear to be broad spectrum, in particular it is said to be safe for snails, which I would prefer to kill along with everything else.
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Post by Carl on Jul 5, 2015 11:45:33 GMT -5
I have used praziquantel in ponds before (before the product PraziPro) with good results, but you are correct snails usually survived, but then my clients usually preferred I keep the snails. The problem with any effective treatment, is sometimes a massive die off of snails will release toxins into the water that can kill the fish. This is why I still preferred copper where I drained out much of the water and then refilled, then added the copper to 25 ppm, then drained partially again. Even the use of praziquantel is better served by a partial water change. For me, I never made these changes a major event, as time was money in my aquarium/pond maintenance business and waiting around for a pond to drain was time I usually did not have. So I would start draining the pond, calculate the time needed to drain as much water as needed and return at this time. Sometimes I would fill and drain at the same time (running new water through a carbon filter and using Wonder Shells too), especially with client's ponds that were not close to other customers that I could take care of while waiting for the pond to drain, this way I could even return a day later if need be. I will also admit, that it was rare to have an established pond whereby some invertebrates were not constantly finding their way back into the pond. How, I am not sure, but possibly even by birds pooping into the pond, inverts that came in with potted plants and hiding in the deep muddy root systems where they will never get killed no matter what you do outside of a nuclear bomb inside your pond (just kidding here) Carl
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