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Nov 16, 2013 17:37:04 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 16, 2013 17:37:04 GMT -5
My kribensis pair had babies!! I don't know why, really, but I'm completely surprised by this. The only animals I've had reproduce before were shrimp and I just kind of left them to it. Do you think I need to do anything with these babies, or will mom and dad take care of them for a while? I don't have any baby fish food or anything! I can crush up some flakes for them. I noticed them all bunched up under the filter intake!!! So I unplugged my filter and the parents moved them away a little distance, but I don't know how far away they should be. I wonder if I have enough stuff for a sponge prefilter... I have no idea what I'm doing!! The babies are so cute though!
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Nov 16, 2013 21:58:58 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 16, 2013 21:58:58 GMT -5
Update: Mom and dad seem to be doing a nice job so far. I figured out why they were hanging out near the filter intake. I have a little batch of java fern back there, so the kiddies are snacking on the food and plant bits on the roots. The parents move the fry around quite a bit. It's really interesting to watch them!
I didn't have any spare pre-filter parts, so I took the pre-filter out of my 10 gallon and put it in the 30. Hopefully it'll help keep the fry safe. Figures that this would pop up AFTER I placed an American Aquarium Product order (btw, thanks for the super fast shipping AAP guys!).
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Nov 17, 2013 12:21:51 GMT -5
Post by Carl on Nov 17, 2013 12:21:51 GMT -5
Cool! I have had many of my Kribensis breed over the years, 90% of the time not intentionally! My point in noting this is these are relatively easy fish to breed (not as easy as livebearers though). My only thoughts is to try and disturb the fish as little as possible, and remove any fish the Kribensis might find a threat. If undisturbed, my success at fry grow out is quite high, most failures were in "busy" tanks. Powder up some dry food between your fingers such as Spirulina 20, I also really like Hikari First Bites Fish Food for Kribensis and similar fish fry References: www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AlgaeWafers.html#biteswww.americanaquariumproducts.com/Spirulina20Food.htmlThe best Filter Max when baby fish are present are the #2 & #1, not the more coarse #3 BTW, your welcome as to your purchase shipment; thank you too for your purchase (especially of late, as business has been extremely poor). Carl
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Nov 17, 2013 19:15:34 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 17, 2013 19:15:34 GMT -5
There are only 3 other fish in the tank right now: 2 harlequin rasboras and one flying fox. The parents have been doing a good job keeping them corralled in right side of the tank, while the family is mostly toward the left. It's Fortunately it's a long 30 gallon tank, so there's 3 feet real estate. The outsiders have been confined to about 8 inches. I've been crushing up Aqueon tropical flakes as well as Spirulina flakes and adding it in near the fry with a medicine dropper. I don't want to disturb them too much, but I also want to make sure the water stays clean with all this crushed up food I'm adding. I know I can't do a thorough gravel cleaning, but I think if I just do several smaller water changes throughout the week, they should be fine. I'll just make sure to stay very far away from the fry.
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Nov 18, 2013 21:33:01 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 18, 2013 21:33:01 GMT -5
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Nov 19, 2013 12:17:15 GMT -5
Post by Carl on Nov 19, 2013 12:17:15 GMT -5
Looks great!
I am happy for you and your Kribensis.
The parent looks very calm, which is a good think IMO, as from my experience, and admittedly often many of my egg layer breedings were accidental, when the parents were constantly darting around in an attempt to keep the babies safe, the chances of success went down considerably.
Carl
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Nov 19, 2013 14:33:41 GMT -5
Post by devonjohnsgard on Nov 19, 2013 14:33:41 GMT -5
cute little guys. Congrats Grandma.
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Nov 20, 2013 21:19:04 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Nov 20, 2013 21:19:04 GMT -5
Thanks guys! The parents really are very calm, but vigilant. I think my tank is long enough that they don't feel too nervous about the other 3 fish in the tank, since there is probably at least 24 inches separating the fry from the others at all times. But they do keep a close eye out. It's been so interesting watching them take turns guarding the fry while the other roams around checking things out, eating, etc. It's so funny when one of the fry moves too far away from the group. Mom or dad will go and scoop it up, swim back to the group, and spit the baby out to keep everyone together. The parents are probably exhausted keeping up with all those kids!
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Nov 26, 2013 10:36:31 GMT -5
Post by Suzie Q (Lori) on Nov 26, 2013 10:36:31 GMT -5
Awesome!!!
I've had 2 spawns with my German Rams, but both times, when I removed the treat (2nd pair), the parents ate the fry. I'm going to pull the eggs next time and attempt to raise them myself...lol
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Dec 1, 2013 17:31:28 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Dec 1, 2013 17:31:28 GMT -5
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Dec 1, 2013 19:02:39 GMT -5
Post by Carl on Dec 1, 2013 19:02:39 GMT -5
Wow, they look great, very active and looking for food!!
Is the Flying Fox OK?
Carl
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Jan 16, 2014 16:25:09 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Jan 16, 2014 16:25:09 GMT -5
Hi! Sorry it's been so long since I posted. Been super busy lately. Anyway, yes the Flying fox is fine. He and the harlequin rasbora have been living in the 5 gallon tank. It's not ideal for Mr. Fox, but he has recovered very well - so has the rasbora. By the time I was able to move the Fox, the parents had also turned on the rasbora. There's another development to the story. I thought I had a little more time to get the kids out, but mom and dad fish decided to have more kids!!! They hatched yesterday, so they aren't free swimming yet. I imagine I need to move the older kids out before the parents turn on them. I also need to separate the adults! I have no idea what I'm going to do with all these fish! Any suggestions on when would be the best time to separate the parents? Give them a few weeks to raise the babies? Maybe I'll put the female in the 50 with the other female krib and the angel fish. Will the 2 females get along well? Here is an updated video of the older kids: Krib kids
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Jan 17, 2014 11:02:54 GMT -5
Post by Carl on Jan 17, 2014 11:02:54 GMT -5
There is likely no one correct answer, since all fish have personalities IMO. But I would suggest leaving the parents with the new "kids" fr a few weeks to make sure no additional stress is added to the situation. For me the bigger and more difficult question is how to split the parents, I would try adding the female Kribs together with the Angel as you suggested, but this still may cause conflict. I would suggest adding the new girl via a breeder net for a few days rather than just adding her to the tank with the other girl and Angel BTW, cute new video, thanks for sharing! Carl
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Jan 28, 2014 21:56:45 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Jan 28, 2014 21:56:45 GMT -5
I moved about 13 of the older fish kids from the 30 gallon to my 10 gallon. That still left about 20! Last week I put up a divider, separating the older ones from the parents and new fry. It's split almost half and half.
The fish parents solved the "when should I split them up" question for me. Two days ago I was in the den and I noticed frantic movement on the side with the parents and new fry. Mrs. Fish was attacking Mr. Fish! Like, big time. So I moved the divider enough to let Mr. Fish move out. Poor guy is beat up! His tail is shredded and his color is really washed out. Even 2 days later, he's very afraid and hides quite a lot. It's like he hasn't figured out that he's safe now. He is eating, so I suppose that's one good thing.
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Jan 29, 2014 12:27:12 GMT -5
Post by Carl on Jan 29, 2014 12:27:12 GMT -5
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Feb 1, 2014 14:43:45 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Feb 1, 2014 14:43:45 GMT -5
Haha, I know! I can't keep up with these crazy fish. Mr. Fish has come out of hiding and looks a little bit better. However, I think I'm going to play "musical fish." I'm going to put the Harlequin rasbora and Flying Fox back in the 30 gallon, on the side where the older fish kids are living. They're big enough that the Mr. Fox shouldn't give them a hard time. And then I'll put the male krib in the 5 gallon with some medicine so his tail can heal up.
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Mar 29, 2014 17:46:43 GMT -5
Post by babygeige on Mar 29, 2014 17:46:43 GMT -5
Baby krib update! I have what seems like a million fish. Babies in the 10 gallon, babies in the 30 gallon, babies in a 5 gallon. LFS said they take some when they're about an inch long. A bunch of the ones in the 30 gallon and probably a few from the 10 qualify, but I just have no idea when I'll be able to take them down there. I need to make sure that's my first stop, but it's just not working with my schedule at all. :/
Fish dad is back in the 30 gallon - his fins have healed after the beating he took from Fish mom. Fish mom has moved into the 50 gallon with the other female krib. They seem to get along pretty well. I'll occasionally see a little bit of chasing, but there is no damage done and it's not excessive, so I am happy about that at least.
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Mar 30, 2014 15:15:30 GMT -5
Post by Carl on Mar 30, 2014 15:15:30 GMT -5
Wow, you are really doing well with your Kribensis Cichlids! (Maybe you could write a profile about Kribensis someday when you have time?)Also maybe some members might be interested in your offspring too, but this would involve bagging them and taking down to the Post office for shipping, which may be time you do not have Carl
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