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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 22, 2011 2:49:27 GMT -5
Ok so ive managed to get sone oscars. Ive been playing musical fish tanks and need help on filtration and advise on fish to sell not that I want to but. So heres my current stockings. 100gal 6x18x18 2x5cm oscars 2xblue acaras 1x firmouth 1x green sevrum 1xrtb shark... 70gal 3xangels ,9 rummynoses , 5 corys, 1 gold sevrum 4cm, bn pair, clown loach.
Now im know im overstocked but need help on what to do and how to filter these tanks. I really want to keep my two baby oscars..
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Post by Carl on Jun 22, 2011 9:58:14 GMT -5
For the time, you are not overstocked IMO. What current filters do you have? As a generalization a combination of a Canister Filter AND a Fluidized Bed Filter is unbeatable for high bio loads Carl
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 23, 2011 4:57:55 GMT -5
Only 800litres per hour internals atm. Carl, im not overstocked? Really I thought jyst the two baby oscars were over....so what to do before everyone gets bigger...
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 23, 2011 4:59:11 GMT -5
One intetnal per tank, same size 800ph. Otto brand.
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Post by Carl on Jun 23, 2011 10:03:27 GMT -5
You definitely need more filtration, but your tank itself has the capacity (for now) The Fluizidized/canister combination would work best for large cichlids such as Oscars. An additional sponge filter such as the Hydro Sponge #5 would go a long ways in complimenting current internal filter Carl
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 25, 2011 2:04:28 GMT -5
This might seem silly carl but how do canasters work n whats the best brand. And can two adult oscars live in a 100g long?
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 25, 2011 2:06:04 GMT -5
I really dont want to sell anyone but I dont want to stunt either....oh bother.
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Post by parker002 on Jun 25, 2011 7:44:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the "official" recommendation is but my brother-in-law has had two LARGE oscars in his 55G tank (along with a Jack Dempsey that's not small) for about 7 years without any real issues. He's not an "enthusiast" - he's using a Marineland HOB filter and no other filtration other than an airstone.
I have an Aquatop CF canister and I love it. For the money (quite a bit less than Rena or Fluval), it's been pretty good to me so far. I bought mine from Carl and I'm very pleased.
I would also 2nd his recommendation of using a Sponge filter. They can't be beat for bio-filtration, considering you MIGHT end up with $20 invested if you figure in the air stone and everything.
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Post by goldenpuon on Jun 25, 2011 16:46:41 GMT -5
Since Ocscars get big and I hear need a 50 gallon minimum so I say a 100 would be fine if its just the Oscars. A smaller tank will work short term definitely especially since they are so small/young now. And even as large adults which will be a while from now probably, they can get along in a smaller tank if aggression is not an issue and the tank is well maintained. I hope this isn't an obvious question but when you say you want to keep them in the 100, do you mean the one with the other fish you mentioned in this post or a different one 100 gallon tank? If you were to keep them in there until they are full size, you would need to take some of the other fish out and sell them or move them to another tank. Some of the fish you have in there grow very large I know such as the severum and clown loach if I am not mistaken. The adults Oscars would eat the rummy's and any other very small fish. Also, they are very aggressive as adults so they should only be kept with other fish they will not attack or that will behave agressively to them. I am not 100% sure about this but heard Oscars can also be aggressive toward each other but I think it depends on the gender of the fish and other factors. I hope that helps Angel. Btw, baby oscar are so cute IMO! Renee
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 25, 2011 20:40:50 GMT -5
Renee, ive only got two big tanks. The 100 n 70. Stocking is in my first post in this thread. I think ill sell the sevs and maybe the firemouth but im so smitten on my two acaras. At least I have a little time to decide and get better filtration.
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 25, 2011 20:42:28 GMT -5
Thanks btw guys
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 26, 2011 0:32:35 GMT -5
How noisy are canisters btw. Hubby hates noise from my tanks so hobs are too noisy always making him pee lol. Thats kinda why I ended up with internals. But the biggest internal I can find is only 1200lph and the current way to strong for my six footer...
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Post by goldenpuon on Jun 26, 2011 20:26:06 GMT -5
It may be possible to get another smaller tank and put some of the fish in there from the 100 with the Oscars if you have the time, money, room, etc. for it. Also, how long are the oscars? From your last picture, they looked very small. If they are under 4 inches, a 30 gallon tank would give them plenty of room to grow out and you could also have room for some other fish until they are older/larger. For filters, ahve you tried Whisper HOB filters? I have used them for my 10 gallons for years and found them very quiet. I not not think that are the absolute best on the market but are not bad at all either. My mother is very very sensitive to the sound of filters as well. I hope that helps. Renee
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 27, 2011 2:26:16 GMT -5
My oscars are 5cm head to tail. Thx renee.
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Post by goldenpuon on Jun 27, 2011 14:08:59 GMT -5
You're welcome. 4 inches is about 10 cm I believe. 5 cm is about 2 inches. Just so you know. I don't believe they use inches and feet in Australia but I may be wrong.
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 27, 2011 18:23:41 GMT -5
Lol no theyy dont. Inches always seems so inaccurate, like lets just guess its 4 n a half inch lol. Makes me laugh. But yes your right my guys are boout 2-3 inches hehe.. Got some growing to do to get to 30 cms or 12 inch lol
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Post by goldenpuon on Jun 27, 2011 21:21:05 GMT -5
In teh USA, we use the metric and English (?) measurement systems. My mother doesn't even know anything from the metric system. My longest fish Salyme is about 6 inches, about 15 cm. Back to the topic, yes, your oscars are very small. Probably under a year old.
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 27, 2011 23:21:29 GMT -5
I think my biggest fish would be my red tail shark. Hes a easy 6 inchs. The guy at the los said my guys were really young. Only a few months as a guess and he got them from a good breeder in brisbane ( captial qld) so heres hopeing they grow big and strong btw imperial vs metric is the terms for us vs aus/eng measurements
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Post by goldenpuon on Jun 28, 2011 21:00:19 GMT -5
Wow. Your red tailed shark will probably be huge when its older then. Goldfish can get up to 12 inches or even more like a max of 15 in a huge pond. Got it. I forgot it was called imperial.
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Post by DaharkazAngel on Jun 28, 2011 21:12:23 GMT -5
So my oscars got their butts kicked last night by my acaras n rtbs. So I removed them. Poor babies have scratches n ripped fins. So only fish in my 100gal is two oscars n a firemouth who also got beat up, may remove him but as the oscars grow...
Wow goldfish get big. Ive actully never had goldies, wanted too just never had the guts to buy one. I know they are coldwater n only can be with other goldies so ive really never had the spare tank space. On my too do list but : P
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