Guppy Family Tree/Names

[goldenpuon]

Again, i reposted this from EA on MSN

From: goldenpuon (Original Message) Sent: 7/9/2008 9:21 PM
Only females or known parents if any are added. FM=fin marking bm=body marking

F_ (beige)Irene fish_R

F offspring Renee Renea

F_(beige)GentoitaFM(spots)

offspring F? M? Tiyler or Tyler





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From: murdock6701 Sent: 7/9/2008 10:25 PM
thank you Renee......


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From: goldenpuon Sent: 7/9/2008 10:32 PM
You're welcome. Do you understand my family tree mapping? It's basically for me for referance but if your smart enough you can figure it out. lol


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From: murdock6701 Sent: 7/9/2008 10:52 PM
not another quiz here right? LOL - I keep journals of all my fish births and dates so I can better control fry arrivals - most are like clockwork.....


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From: goldenpuon Sent: 7/9/2008 10:56 PM
Do you understand my guppy family trees and my betta ones?


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From: goldenpuon Sent: 7/17/2008 11:06 AM
F_(beige)Irene fish_R, possibly many father although Magnet may be dad M_(white/black)Magnet_Black/W

7 fry 7/16/08


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From: goldenpuon Sent: 7/17/2008 1:31 PM
Hey Murdock, Tiyler/Tyler is trying to eat the other fry even though he/she is only a week older and not that much bigger. It's so cute, got a future baby fish eater. lol By the way, by Tyler's small size, I think it is a boy and he is very healthy. lol I'll give pic's when he's a bit bigger.


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From: murdock6701 Sent: 7/17/2008 8:14 PM
can't be - he's/she's too young! may be playing - a fish will generally not attack or try to eat anything it can't get into it's mouth - am I wrong here? don't want to give bad advice! at leas it's spunky and full of life Renee! God bless him/ her in Tyler's namesake! thanks again!


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From: murdock6701 Sent: 7/17/2008 8:22 PM
where did Renee's threads go?


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From: murdock6701 Sent: 7/17/2008 8:23 PM
never mind.....sorry!


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From: goldenpuon Sent: 7/17/2008 10:58 PM
lol No, your dear Tiyler/Tyler wants the other fry. XD Either that or it will be the world's most aggressive guppy. I think he'she's mistaking them for brine shrimp. Got to keep an eye on them to make sure the week old Tyler doesn't grow big enough to eat them before they can catch up. All 8 of them already go to the top expecting food when I come to the tank to feed them. They were born just yesterday! Man, they're smart.


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From: murdock6701 Sent: 7/18/2008 7:08 PM
congrats on your new babies!


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From: goldenpuon Sent: 7/18/2008 7:19 PM
Thanks! Maybe another can be named Murdock or John. lol I'll get pics when they are big enough to show well on my camera which will not show them much with the low picture quality it has now.


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From: goldenpuon Sent: 8/21/2008 8:36 AM


9 guppy fry 8/21/08 Both parents unknown


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From: goldenpuon Sent: 8/29/2008 4:43 PM
Now I am unsure of what happened to Tyler/Tiyler, and which adults are the parents of the birth on 7/16/08 . A couple fry laso keep disappearing every so often, no dead bodies found or anything on thorough inspection of the tank. My guess is the larger fry are eating the smaller ones. Good thing I took the 2 biggest out.

[goldenpuon]

Update on Tyler: Maybe Tyler is not dead. The 2 young male guppies in my 2 1/2 gallon have their tails starting to turn red. They look almost identical like they are siblings but I was thinking that one could be Tyler if he/she did not die afterall. Tyler would be the son/daughter of Gentiota that I bought from Petsmart so the father would be unknown. Still, I only was able to rescue one fry from that brood before the parents got the rest. And there are two with red tailing who look like siblings that could be Tyler... I'm not sure what happened to Tyler, I am giving up for now on his/her wereabouts. I will name one of the other two Tyler. Just so you know Murdock, I am still naming the guppy after your dog that passed. I haven't forgotten.

[goldenpuon]

I found a new baby guppy in with the adults today. I hadn't expected any of them to be do but I found it and it looked like it was only a few days old if not less. UI checked tosee if there was more babies and I found none. It looks like the motehr gave birth while I was not looking and most were eaten. lcukily iwas able to rescue it and now it has it's own 4 gallon tank (actually a container) to itself.

Today is 10/06/08, the day I found it for records.

[goldenpuon]

The Tyler twins (my anme for them)

Tyler: yellow body, red fins, black spots and stripes on body
Tiyler: yellow body, red fins, red spots (less markings)

F_ (Beige)MissyFM(black spots)

father unknown, probably more than 1

10 or more fry born 10/29/08

[goldenpuon]

Found 3 baby guppies in main tank 11/08/08. Parents unknown...

[goldenpuon]

Found 3 more fry. I'm going to have to find out what to do with all these guys fast! Again, their parents are unknown. Found 11/13/08. Anyone have more suggestions for selling? I'm not getting anyone responding to my sales at all on Craigslist.


Thanks!

[goldenpuon]

Another fry found. Judging by how my previously fat guppy Renee was very skinny this morning, she gave birth. I was only able to get one fry but with this many births, it's good enough.

Here's the family tree.

F_ (beige)Irene fish_R

F offspring Renee


supposed mother F_(beige)Renee_R

unknown, probably many fathers

offspring 1 fry gender unknown (most likely born today)

11/16/08

[kagome]

I love it that you name your fish! I name mine, too. I did a similar family tree filing system like this when I bred rats so that I could keep them from being inbred. I also came up with a system for tracking temperament, adult size, and litter numbers so that I could decide which bloodlines were the best for breeding both good feeder rats and good pet rats. Believe it or not, rat temperament is closely linked to to color! Some colors have 90% chance of having a bad temperament and some colors had a 100% rate of good temperament. Also, hooded rats are 75% more likely to have a good temperament than any solid colored rats. It's crazy what you can determine when you breed enough generations of an animal and keep good records.

Ooooo! I just had an idea! You might want to think about having a way to mark down if any of your fish get sick, and if so who does and doesn't do well with treatment. You might find some interesting patterns and be able to breed for disease resistance! Keep up the good work!

Kagome

[goldenpuon]

That sounds very interesting. I didn't know that about rats. I think rats are cute. lol

I would do that with diseases but mine don' get sick that often, at least with the number of fish I have. I do have an exceptional memory though so I keep records in my brain. XD And when things pop up a second time, (if they do), I remember whta I have tried and how everything wnet. I do keep a day on paper with tank set-up dates, cleaning, water cahnges, births, etc. I would do more but i'm more than busy enough already. Thanks though.

[goldenpuon]

Caught 3 fry that were born yesterday. As usual, there are probably many fathers and the exact parents are unknown...

Fry probably born 11/22/08.

[goldenpuon]

More fry found this morning... 11/29/08. Since I didn't see any fry yesterday, they were probably born today.

[goldenpuon]

I think I found about 5 more fry Monday, 11/02/08. Kind of not sure if it was Moday or just over Thanksgiving break. Am losing track of guppy birth dates. Oh well.

[goldenpuon]

I know it has been a LONG time since I posted here.

However, I thought I would update it.

Tyler (named after Murdock's dog who passed away a couple years ago), died this week.

Tyler was around 2 1/2 based on the dates of my posts here when he died. (I beleive he was born in late June of 2008)

Tyler had some bloating issues (these slowly got worse over a year.) A couple weeks before he died, he seemed a bit stressed.

However, this Friday, I noticed he did not come out like usual during feeding. I discovered he had died and been completely eaten by his half brother French Fry and a very very old male guppy in with him.

As of now, French Fry is either almost 2 years old or almost 2. The old guppy (who I bought as an adult over 1 1/2 years ago) is 2 years or older right now.

I only 2 guppies left, French Fry and the old male I recently named Malowe after a friend's fish that died..

Renee