Post by mematrix on Mar 23, 2009 0:46:09 GMT -5
Hi I got a pr of GBRs on the 8th they spawned 2 days later but ate the eggs 2 days after. Well its been 12 days since the laid their forst spawn and i have another one this time i pulled the eggs to artifically hatch the eggs. I have been successful with doing this for well over 100 ram spawns. This is a new blood line since I lost my line due to sickness and hospital stays so hopefully I can get another quality line going just wish i could find some that haven't lost their parenting skills seems every pr I get will lay and guard till the eggs hatch then eat.Been trying to get wild prs with no luck.
Curtis
Here is link to how I learned to artifically hatch
www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/profiles/breeding/bluerambreeding.html
I also have an articale i have written
Spawning Microgeophagus ramirezi by Curtis Johnson
This is an account of my experiences of successfully spawning my German Blue Rams (Microgeophagus ramirezi). I bought my Rams at the Fish Place in Ft. Worth. I noticed an apparent pair towards the back of the tank at the store. I pointed out the pair I wanted and the store employee bagged them for me. I took them home and put them in my 20 gallon tank moderately planted and decorated with petrified wood.
Microgeophagus ramirezi or German blue ram, is a substrate spawner native to the slow moving rivers and canals of South America. The climate is sub-tropical with temperatures in the mid 70's and 80's with a ph of 6.5 to 7.0. Males achieve a size of three inches or 7 to 8 centimeters with the female slightly smaller. The fish have a predominately yellow body with a black spot in the center of the body upwards to the first dorsal rays with a red outline on the dorsal and anal fins.The blue coloring comes from the irredescent sheen on the scales throughout it's body. The males of this species have an elongated second and third dorsal rays while the female's abdominal region is slightly pink, but may not be apparent until she is ready to spawn. A truly beautiful fish!
Where I live the water source is from a well with very soft water of 25ppm total hardness and 300ppm total alkalinity with a ph of 8.4. I fed my rams a varied diet of brine shrimp, bloodworms, mosquito larvae and flake food. After about three to four weeks I noticed the pair cleaning a small piece of smooth petrified wood under the cover of a plant. Upon closer observation I noticed the female's belly was very red and her opivisor was protruding. After two to three hours I noticed the pair beginning to spawn. The female made a pass laying down some eggs. Next the male made a pass fertilizing the eggs. They continued until about 100 to 125 egs were laid on the small rock. The first spawn was unsuccessful because they ate their eggs. After some research, I found out that rams are notorious spawn eaters.
Within three and a half weeks my pair were ready to spawn again.This time I was prepared because I had found an article at www.aquatic-hobbyist.com which enabled me to save and raise the spawn. This is how I did it with my ram's second and third spawns. I removed the small stone with the eggs attached about three hours after spawning was completed.I put the eggs in a 1 quart jar which was filled with distilled Ozarka water suspended in parent tank to keep the temperature constant. I put an airstone in the jar to airate the eggs just enough so that the surface rolls a little. I used 3% Hydrogen peroxide as an anti-fungal treatment,12 drops every 12 hours until the eggs hatched in about 48 hours at 82 degrees Farenheit. In about 72 hours after hatching the fry became free-swimming.
I began feeding Wardley's Smallfry, microworms and vinegar eels as first food for a week and a half. I began adding newly hatched brine shrimp to their diet along with the microworms and vinegar eels but ceased feeding the Wardley's Smallfry. After about four weeks I transferred the fry to a 10 gallon grow out tank. About this same time my rams spawned a third time and I repeated the process. At three weeks I transfered the fry to a live-bearer floating breeder in the 10 gallon grow out tank while they grew large enough to survive with the first batch in about five weeks.
Out of both spawns I have about 60 baby rams to raise. So If you have a desire to breed rams, perhaps my experiences may help.
Sincerely Curtis
Curtis
Here is link to how I learned to artifically hatch
www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/profiles/breeding/bluerambreeding.html
I also have an articale i have written
Spawning Microgeophagus ramirezi by Curtis Johnson
This is an account of my experiences of successfully spawning my German Blue Rams (Microgeophagus ramirezi). I bought my Rams at the Fish Place in Ft. Worth. I noticed an apparent pair towards the back of the tank at the store. I pointed out the pair I wanted and the store employee bagged them for me. I took them home and put them in my 20 gallon tank moderately planted and decorated with petrified wood.
Microgeophagus ramirezi or German blue ram, is a substrate spawner native to the slow moving rivers and canals of South America. The climate is sub-tropical with temperatures in the mid 70's and 80's with a ph of 6.5 to 7.0. Males achieve a size of three inches or 7 to 8 centimeters with the female slightly smaller. The fish have a predominately yellow body with a black spot in the center of the body upwards to the first dorsal rays with a red outline on the dorsal and anal fins.The blue coloring comes from the irredescent sheen on the scales throughout it's body. The males of this species have an elongated second and third dorsal rays while the female's abdominal region is slightly pink, but may not be apparent until she is ready to spawn. A truly beautiful fish!
Where I live the water source is from a well with very soft water of 25ppm total hardness and 300ppm total alkalinity with a ph of 8.4. I fed my rams a varied diet of brine shrimp, bloodworms, mosquito larvae and flake food. After about three to four weeks I noticed the pair cleaning a small piece of smooth petrified wood under the cover of a plant. Upon closer observation I noticed the female's belly was very red and her opivisor was protruding. After two to three hours I noticed the pair beginning to spawn. The female made a pass laying down some eggs. Next the male made a pass fertilizing the eggs. They continued until about 100 to 125 egs were laid on the small rock. The first spawn was unsuccessful because they ate their eggs. After some research, I found out that rams are notorious spawn eaters.
Within three and a half weeks my pair were ready to spawn again.This time I was prepared because I had found an article at www.aquatic-hobbyist.com which enabled me to save and raise the spawn. This is how I did it with my ram's second and third spawns. I removed the small stone with the eggs attached about three hours after spawning was completed.I put the eggs in a 1 quart jar which was filled with distilled Ozarka water suspended in parent tank to keep the temperature constant. I put an airstone in the jar to airate the eggs just enough so that the surface rolls a little. I used 3% Hydrogen peroxide as an anti-fungal treatment,12 drops every 12 hours until the eggs hatched in about 48 hours at 82 degrees Farenheit. In about 72 hours after hatching the fry became free-swimming.
I began feeding Wardley's Smallfry, microworms and vinegar eels as first food for a week and a half. I began adding newly hatched brine shrimp to their diet along with the microworms and vinegar eels but ceased feeding the Wardley's Smallfry. After about four weeks I transferred the fry to a 10 gallon grow out tank. About this same time my rams spawned a third time and I repeated the process. At three weeks I transfered the fry to a live-bearer floating breeder in the 10 gallon grow out tank while they grew large enough to survive with the first batch in about five weeks.
Out of both spawns I have about 60 baby rams to raise. So If you have a desire to breed rams, perhaps my experiences may help.
Sincerely Curtis